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01-17-2005 08:06 AM
pistolgrip Very good advice! Thanks everyone!
01-15-2005 11:22 AM
hoss your right red65 many people don't know that .
but when getting charged hourly
many shops tend to add alot of hours for work like you stated.
and you can easily save 100's of dollars by you removing everything ,glass
grille,bumpers,moldings,etc.
01-15-2005 02:39 AM
red65mustang Forgot to write, insist that he does any/all prep work that will save you time....and him money.

Clean and clean and clean.....engine/wheel wells/jams etc etc

Remove bumpers, grill, junk tires to paint,pull door panels etc etc.

Make him a "to do" list before he brings the car

Let him help with the taping, let him knock down the filler and you finish it, let him do the wiping and tacking?
01-14-2005 08:49 PM
pontiac owner I live in southern Illinois, not exactly a high cost area. I think a full time working painter who can turn out show quality paint jobs should price his work so he makes at least $1,000 a week, after expenses, especially if he is working in his own shop, where he has to come up with the insurance, the tools, the lights, the 15% social security, and deal with the EPA and other government crap.
I'm not full time; I don't do that great of work; I am not that fast, so I don't command that kind of money.
Median family income is around $42,000 a year. Painting cars is not only very highly skilled work, it is hard physical labor.
01-14-2005 06:58 PM
swvalcon Best way to do this is agree on a hour price and charge by the hours spent. Just be fair on your time that way no one gets taken for a ride.
01-14-2005 05:14 PM
BuickLeSabre1960
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Originally posted by pistolgrip
Looks great man! Good luck with your paint job also!
Thanx
01-14-2005 12:53 PM
pistolgrip
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Originally posted by BuickLeSabre1960
The guy that painted my brothers 66 catalina and is going to paint my car charged a little over $2500 and it is a really nice paint job, that price also included rust work and priming. here's a picture of his car. You can't really tell but the top is a candy.
Looks great man! Good luck with your paint job also!
01-14-2005 05:13 AM
red65mustang
agree with Barry's $ est.

Seperate materials and labor, and he buys ALL materials, sand paper, tape, compound, masking paper etc.

Charge him by the panel, by the hour, he has to ok each panel for straight as it is done in primer. That way he knows where the $ went....your still friends at the end.

"local parking lots winner"=$4,000+..... lots of blocking!!!
01-13-2005 09:18 PM
BuickLeSabre1960 The guy that painted my brothers 66 catalina and is going to paint my car charged a little over $2500 and it is a really nice paint job, that price also included rust work and priming. here's a picture of his car. You can't really tell but the top is a candy.
01-13-2005 10:12 AM
pistolgrip Thanks Backwoods,

I know how you feel when you finally quote someone a price for a paint job and they have no idea in whats involved. I think this guy has somewhat of a clue and I belive I have already figured out what to quote him based on how helpful you and the other members of this board have been, Good luck on the truck!

Rob
01-13-2005 02:05 AM
BackwoodsBum
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Originally posted by pistolgrip
I can honestly say that the quality of the paint job would be close to a show job as I have painted many of my own cars and have been complimented numerous times on how well the paint turned out and then they ask who painted it. Most people can't believe that I was the one who painted the car and the next thing I hear "Can you paint mine?" I believe in taking a little more time for that perfect job than trying to rush things. I just find out that people normally don't understand why it takes so long and don't appreciate how much work that goes into a great paint job.
You sound like me...I'm constantly having people ask me to paint their car, but most nearly faint when I quote them a price. That's why I rarely paint cars for anyone except myself or my family. I really love it when people say "why do you charge so much when Maaco, Earl Schieb, etc. only charge $200 - $300". Places like that usually use a lower grade of materials and buy in bulk so their costs are much lower. Their prices wouldn't cover a fraction of the cost of materials alone for a custom paint job. I'm just about to finish a 1966 F100 for my dad and we have nearly $1500 in materials alone and more hours of work than I can count. This truck wasn't really intended to be a show truck, but I had some things I was wanting to experiment with and his truck happened to be in the shop at that time so one thing lead to another and it's days as a work truck are over now.

Anyway, it sounds like you're trying to determine how much to charge for labor and are not concerned with materials cost. This is tough because no two jobs are the same so it would be hard for anyone to say how much you should charge. Only you can decide what you think your time is worth and how much time you will spend on this project. Once you've done that, then quote your friend a price. Good luck!
01-12-2005 11:28 PM
pistolgrip Thanks very much everyone and thanks mr4speed for the paint codes!
01-12-2005 07:13 AM
BodymanDave When I have a friend do work for me I demand to pay the same price as he would charge a stranger. I figure if I paid a stranger full price for work I would much rather pay a friend the full price for their work.
01-11-2005 09:58 PM
Dubz
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Originally posted by daimon1054
Are you doing it as a friend or to make money? If it's a good friend then why are you charging him labor? If it to make money then see above post.
just cause he's a good friend, doesn't meen you should give him $2000 of you time and effort for nothing.
01-11-2005 08:40 PM
hoss $1,000 +++
TIME IS MONEY$$$$$$$$$
specially for a near show quality paint job.
buffing at least 350.00
spraying $250 minimum
thats $500 without even touching the bodywork
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