HELP ---I AM NEW HERE-----MY NAME IS GREG----
don't know which way to go ----i am building a 32 ford with a 283 and t5 5speed trans---need help selecting a clutch linkage system-----should i go with a slave cylinder or a hydraulic throw out bearing. ----i hear good and bad about the hyd tob----any opinions would be appreciated. ---this vehicle will be used only on street for cruising never raced . what brand of tob is recommended? if recomendation is twords a slave cylinder system which stock gm or other should i use ? . Outside of the obvious what is the difference beteween a push and pull type slave cylinder ? is one better than the other or is it just a matter of mounting space and clearance?? do i have to use a special fork with either application ---anybody got a good web site for research on this subject ??? thanks in advance-----greg
This is a bump as well as a plea for an answer for you. I'm in the same postition with my 34 Ford. I have both a TH400 and a Muncie 4 speed. I really want to run the manual but need advice like you.
If I don't get something soon, I'm gonna take the easy way out and run the TH400. But that's not really a 'hot rodder's' way, now is it?
All I have ever used is the slave type units. Available at bone yards, fairly simple to set up on existing clutch components and rebuildable. More adjustable and not as disc thickness sensitive.
thanks guys --i appreciate the opinions---my instincts were taking me twards the external --now i have to select componants and fab me a system ---thanks again-----greg
JMark, I also had a Fairbanks Clutch turbo in a tube chassis, glass, 70 ish Nova. I really liked the trans (poor mans LENCO), but the 1" input shaft was its downfall. That ole Big block and 14 wide M&H's would twist that "high-tuff" shaft almost completely around before breaking!! I used to have them hung up on the wall as conversation pieces!!
the mid-later 80's camaros and firebirds that came with the chevy engines and std. trans came with a t-5 trans... the bellhousing will bolt right up and the slave is external... (drivers side of bellhousing). gl :thumbup:
Any of the OLD GMC pickups, busses, etc. that used the V-6 GMC engine (spark plugs in the center valley) and stick trans. They are getting hard to find. The last three I scored were at a tractor/heavy equipment yard.. I don't think Chevy used these engines..
The Camaro-Firebird ones are more common and will work well. The reason I like the GMC ones, is they are easily rebuildable. Lots of travel.
I AM AWARE OF THE FIREBIRD /CAMARO BELLHOUSING WITH THE SLAVE BUILT IN BUT THEY WOULD LEAVE ME WITH A TRANSMISSION THAT IS TILTED 15 DEGREES----AS FOR THE GMC TRUCKS ---I WILL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THEM AS HAVE A FRIEND THAT IS A PARTS GUY AT A GMC DEALER ---I WILL LET HIM DO SOME RESEARCH FOR ME ---THANKS GUYS
are you saying that i could order a new s-10 4.3 bellhousing with the factory slave cyl and all my problems would be solved. of corse i would order the factory clutch fork, throw out brg and linkage also.its that easy --?????? thanks
The 4.3 V-6 engine is essentially a 350 with two cylinders in the middle removed, and is similar in looks and measurements with the 283 you intend on using.
The only things I am unsure about is the measurements of the crankshaft flywheel mating surface, to transmission engine mounting surface.
With the newer engines having a one-piece rear main seal, and externally balanced flywheel being the only difference from the older engine's specifics, I cannot simply give a "yes it's the same".
I guess that i have to find one of the 4.3 bells and try to fit it on the old 283----my next project is fitting a clutch to the 14 spline transmission i am using buy i think i have that solved . Thanks for the info .
-------greg
I found a bone yard near me that has a bellhousing (with complete insides) out of an 86 Camaro along with the T5 tranny and all the pedals and everything inbetween for a mere $150 (aledgedly good tranny). Lucky me!
A friend said that the T5s aren't all that stout and may not hold up to the HP of a built SBC or BBC. If this is true, how tough would it be to mount my trusty Muncie to that Camaro's bellhousing?
FIRST OFF WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO RUN THIS SETUP IN?? IF YOU ARE PUTTING IN A STREET ROD THAN SEVERAL THINGS COME INTO PLAY. (1) THE CAMARO BELLHSG TILTS THE TRANSMISSION 15 DEGREES FOR CLEARENCE IN THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION (2) THE T5 IS A FAIRLY WEAK TRANSMISSION AND WILL NOT STAND UP TO CONSTANT HOLE SHOTS OR ABUSE IN A FULL BODIED CAR. (3) THERE ARE VERSIONS OF THIS TRANSMISSION THAT WILL HANDLE 350 LBS OF TORQUE OUT THERE BUT THE CAMARO VERSION IS NOT ONE OF THEM . (4) PAY ATTENTION TO INPUT SPLINE COUNT AS THERE ARE CLUTCH ISSUES WITH SOME SPLINES. (5) I AM USING MINE IN A RESTO ROD THAT WEIGHS ABOUT 2000 LBS . A BASICLY STOCK 283 AND NARROW TIRES SO I DO NOT FORSEE ANY PROBLEMS. I WILL NEVER RACE IT. (6) DO YOUR RESEARCH ON THE T5 FOR YOUR APPLICATION A GOOD SITE IS "http://www.inliners.org/Jack/t5_page.html AND http://www.5speeds.com/t5/-------- BOTH ARE A START FOR YOUR RESEARCH -------(7) BUY THE WAY THE T5 SHOULD BE THE EXACT SAME BOLT PATTERN AS YOUR 4 SPEED AND IT SHOULD BE A BOLT IN DEAL WITHOUT THE HASSELS OF A SHIFTER . NOTE THAT THERE ARE SOME T5,S THAT HAVE DIFFERENT POSITIONS FOR THE SHIFTER IE CAMARO AND S-10 VERSIONS -----GOOD LUCK -----GREG
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