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11-15-2005 11:10 AM
BondoKing Okay, so what you are saying is,,, I cant dump my reducer under my back deck?? and I cant dump my extra clear and base down the sides of my garbage can on top of all those paper towels soaked in thinner,reducer, base, clear, body filler etc.... and then set that out for the trash man??

Here I thought I was being good to the environment

11-15-2005 10:44 AM
DUCKY Get this: I was told that the hole in the ozone layer is over the
south pole. It is said that the southern hemisphere (below the equator)
and the northern hemisphere (above the equator) doesn't exchange
weather (or at least it's negligable)
So why is our half of the planet not got the hole in the ozone?

Also on the radio the other day they were explaining how much cleaner
the air is now compared to long ago.
This was the results of a long study by some research people.
The results said the cleaner atmosphere now is letting more sunlight
through and contributing more to the greenhouse effect!!!
We were better off with the pollution LOL
11-15-2005 10:17 AM
46chevyfleetline Hey Beenaway: Thanks, you just explained to me why our summer was the hottest in history and so was our fall. It's the 3500 amigos we have up here working in the greenhouses because all the anglo saxtons that are on welfare and U.I. are to good too work for 8 to 10 bucks an hour. Its been good for our downtown core(which was dieing anyhow) Tacho Joes the Andale Club. Not a bad deal for them. Flown up in March and flown back the first of Dec. To get back on topic the gov. hasn't got too fussy here yet but it's coming sure as the snow is. Just as long as they leave our shop alone for another year or two out on Thunder Road.
Just another "Ridge runnin' bush ape"
11-15-2005 06:23 AM
Beenaway2long Studies have PROVEN that the greenhouse effect is a direct result of the burgeoning expansion of Taco Bells in the United States. WHY are the Poles coldest? Furthest from Mexico! Duh !!!
11-14-2005 08:45 PM
Bee4Me BTW,
My persimmon seed say's (spoon) it's going to be a heavy,wet snow winter,so get ready.

Actually Bob,It's all that FREON we blew out in the past.

Nevermind that there is almost NO rain forest left. Volcano's erupting everywhere,Space Shuttle's blasting off......

I suppose it will come here at some point in time but Thangs are cool 'round here for now.
11-14-2005 05:16 PM
kenseth17 I think it was 2-3 years ago that we had really mild winters, hardly any snow. Most of the business further up north that relied on tourism in winter and places selling snowmobiles, ect were really hurting for business and had a huge inventory buildup. They were suppose to have snowmobile races just north of me, and remember they had to make snow to run the event. They may not be happy with you polluters, but I myself don't really enjoy scraping my windshield and getting instant frostbite, and shovelling snow, so pollute away I say. Maybe it will be like living in jamaica up here and you rebels down south might just burn up.
11-14-2005 04:58 PM
BarryK [QUOTE=baddbob]Yeah, everybody burning that stuff and the related Ozone damage sure has been helping to make the winters milder up here


When I see pictures of my sister in-laws house where the snow is at the roof line and all you can see is a path to the front door, you should thank us polluters! She lives about 30-40 miles from you.

But now that you mention it those pictures were a few years back.
I'm still not going up there for Xmas!

My other sister in-law up there works for the DNR as a stream tester and even they are smart enough to lay her off every winter.

Glad we could help you out Bob!
11-14-2005 03:38 PM
kenseth17 I kinda like the mild winters we've been having the last few years. Mid november and no snow yet, still close to 50 for a high.
I try to mix everything as close as possible, If it is an unactivated product, just save the extra till needed again. If it is catalyzed I'll pour into a container and let it harden up, then put it in the garbage. I don't generate a lot of waste with the amount of work I do at home. Should have it shipped to california and dumped on a few trees, damn tree huggers. What a waaco state, don't think I could handle living there with all the goofy laws and thats just the start of why I wouldn't want to live in California.
11-14-2005 03:21 PM
milo We're playing hardball in Calif. An inspector will first look for loose or missing tops on your paint bench yet you can leave the "bung hole" as they call it open on the collection drum..
With the cost of materials keeping the lid on is easy...

There are so many programs and paperwork it's crazy.
First the fireman
then the water lady
then the air dude...

if you generate less than so many gallons in a 90 day period a shop can use the public drop off stations.
Step 1: Qualifying

The location in which the waste is generated must be in Santa Clara County.
The business must qualify as a Conditionally Exempt Small Quantity Generator(CESQG) as defined in the California Health and Safety Code, section 25218.1 , and Code of Federal Regulations 40, Section 261.5 .
According to these codes, you must produce less than 220 lbs., or 27 gallons of hazardous waste per month, or less than 2.2 lbs. of Extremely Hazardous Waste per month.
Non-Profits, Landlords, Apartment Managers, Associaitions, and Businesses who have had hazardous waste dumped on their property are considered small businesses, and not are not exempt from disposal fees.

They got it set up so it pays to not be a succesfull business
But Arnold says he can fix that...,4745,si...499354,00.html
11-14-2005 01:09 PM
BarryK --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OK, edumacate me! (Got to love CA)

How in sam H*** do you stop VOC's from evaporating?
If 2:1 is legal to spray but you can't have it in a mixing cup?

Do they require it in a sealed container?

If you had a 55 gallon waste drum and sealed it after every dumping that could be a bomb waiting to happen.

What does a shop do with it?

Another question or statement:
If you have 4 OZ of mixed clear left and you put it in a quart can and seal the lid until clear is hard AS SOON as you pop the lid the voc's escape?
It can't be stopped! Well throw a match to it, I guess.


I just checked the Southern CA law since its the toughest and could not find anything as far as the above once activated.

What are they telling you you must do with it?
Was this a Barbara Boxer law?

11-14-2005 12:25 PM
shine i have an old hood that i spray anything left over on. i send left over paint home with the customer, he paid for it let him store it. i use a 9 in salad bar pan for cleaning my guns , . it will evap overnight. i have poured old paint on the hood and let it dry. i farm so i put nothing in the ground. i agree with barry that getting rid of waste right is important. as far as i know spraying it or letting it dry is legal. maybe not in cal but here it is.
11-14-2005 12:14 PM
302 Z28 IT's all the Bush administrations fault

Downside of using that carb cleaner is the smell, get it on you and your wife won't let you in the house until it wears off, but boy does it work good.

11-14-2005 12:14 PM
jcclark I have a large garbage can full of saw dust from my wood shop.
Anything that has hardener gets poured into a can and thrown
away once hardened.
11-14-2005 12:10 PM
baddbob Yeah, everybody burning that stuff and the related Ozone damage sure has been helping to make the winters milder up here

Most shops in my area just pay to have it hauled off. The smarter shops have a recycler. And there are a few that burn brush with it I'm sure.
11-14-2005 12:05 PM
Bee4Me I keep a big burn pile of limbs in my back yard.
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