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03-14-2003 02:13 AM
horvath YES!

Hoo-wee! That baby must ROAR!!! LOL!
03-13-2003 10:08 PM Yep, got a piece of 16 ga aluminum from the sheet metal shop, had them break it down the middle at the right angle for the peak in the Willys grille opening, then cut it to shape with the trusty Black and Decker jig saw. Filed edges, polished it and pop riveted the chrome grille bars in. Bolted it in place with stainless allen head button head bolts. Can see a better picture of it in my photo album, 'Dream Day' page.
03-13-2003 06:05 PM
horvath Totally cool, willys36!

Man, that sure is a gorgeous grill - thanks for the assembly tips, it explains a lot to me, having never done anything like this.

Where did the aluminum panel come from? Did you make that, too? Jeeze - what a sweet ride!

03-13-2003 06:35 AM [quote]Originally posted by horvath:
<strong>I'd like to remove the "cross' and put in a real "grill" ... like 3/8" wide chrome rods, spaced about 3/8" to 1/2", running horizontally.

Alan Horvath

Horvath; I made the grille in my Willys (see avatar to the left) sort of how you described your dream grille. The vertical bars in my grille are chromed 3/16" welding rod. You could use 3/8" tubing and do it the same way I did.

I first made a jig in my table saw by cutting a series of carefully spaced parallel grooves in a sheet of 1/2" plywood (might want to use 3/4" wood for your heavier bars) that the rods fit snuggly into. Then I cut another couple of grooves at right angles to the first set into which fit the support bars. To finish the jig, I drilled a hole only part way thru the plywood at each intersection of a grille bar and support bar so I could weld them without interference from the wood.

Assembly of the grille was then very easy - just lay the grille bars in the grooves, lay the support bars on top of the grille bars in their grooves and use my mig welder to tack weld the whole mess together. Result was a perfect (and a grille must be perfect or will stand out like a teenage female inturn in Clinton's Whitehouse) grille that I had chromed and pop rivited into the aluminum panel. Support bars are hidden behind the aluminum panel dividers.
03-12-2003 10:30 PM
Halloweenking Good choice.

03-12-2003 10:24 PM
crazy larry I hollered at the metal guy and he said I ordered 1/4 " steel rod. cool. It'll get here one of these days.
03-10-2003 07:32 PM
horvath My guess would be that it was from the 40s and definitely a Euro car.
03-10-2003 06:09 PM
Halloweenking Now I must find this grill, prefferably on the car, but if alone I'm sure it can lead me to the car. I recall vaguelly something like that at some point in my life so now I must find it.

03-10-2003 04:44 PM
horvath Hey, HK

It was an old looking European car ... running boards, fenders with that sweet Talbot Lagaddo (sp?) look ... the grill was just gorgeous - it was tall with vertical chrome rods and, like I said, the sun sat in the bottom right corner (just a semi-circle outline) with 3 or 4 chrome rods shooting upwards (like rays). It could have been a Sunbeam ... I wouldn't know - never was able to see enough of the car. It looked totally stock.

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03-08-2003 11:46 PM
Halloweenking Alan, do you remember what the car with that grill looked like? Was it a custom or stock? Could it have been a Sunbeam?

03-08-2003 11:21 PM
horvath Thanks, One Off. In fact, I am a bit of an artist ... aside from my music career of 30+ years, I also sculpt and paint, etc., etc. ... so I will definitely take your advice.

I like my grill, too ... I'd like to have it chromed when I decide to do the Candy Apple Red paint job and what would send me towards a custom/original grill design is if there's a problem properly prepping my grill for chrome.

But this is a cool thread because grills offer such endless possibilities! I was watching some old movie one night (I love the old B&W movies from the 40s & 50s) and this Euro-car was in it ... it had a grill to die for -- vertical chrome rods sat behind a sunburst; the sun was in the bottom corner with diagonal rays shooting upwards ... all chrome rods. Man, it made me jump up out of my seat! I kept watching and hoping they'd do another shot of the grill again.

[ March 09, 2003: Message edited by: horvath ]</p>
03-08-2003 02:42 PM
one off horvath i think the grill you have is toooo cool
here's a tip i use when i'm making a major change on a body design. take a few photo's of your truck from different angles. then learn to draw that area that your working on. then you can draw your changes and see how ther're going to look. if you can't draw at all it's easy to find someone who can. my wife makes the comment offten when i design stuff "how do you make it look just like the picture" usually it's alot of trial and error.but it's easier on paper than on metal.
i would like to see what you come up with.oh yah sometimes you can draw that area your customizing
and put it right on the photo.
03-07-2003 09:30 PM
Halloweenking Sounds like a plan. My advise is to stay away from here in august unless you'd like to bake in 110+ heat. Other than that its pretty nice here overall. No mountains, not even a presentable hill within 70 miles, but not to shabby Happy to help.

03-07-2003 09:14 PM
horvath Too cool.

Who knows? Maybe I'll truck on down there one fine day and we can work on it together ... or, you do the work and I'll play my dulcimers.

Thanks, bro'.
03-06-2003 10:53 PM
Halloweenking I'm down below you in the southern triangle, South Carolina. If you look way at the southern tip on a map the dot for beaufort will jump out and tweak your dulcimer.

Its difficult to say. It all depends on how the grill will be set up. If your going with a basic horizontal or verticle bar grill on your truck and you take off all of the original grill a 1/4" with .65" wall flattened a tiny bit giving it two sides but a rounded apearance and form it into the original shape of the grill and make a thinner bumper it would look sweet. Now if you were to just remove the virtical bar and left the hood trim bar and the horizontal bar, using semi flattened 3/8 would be fine because any smaller and they would look out of place do to the thick horizontal original bar. If you were to add some verticle flames to a horizontal bar grill I'd use semi flattened 3/8" for the flames and 1/4" for the horizontal bars so they would fall into the background. by adding a clear black light activated paint to the anodized or polished grill you could make them glow at night or just anodize the flames and leave the horizontal bars polished or brushed. It all depends on the grill type about the size of tubing used, but never use totally round tubing, it looks tacky do to the fact nothing else is 100% rounf other than the wheels. The spacing usually is double what the original diameter of the tubing was. For example ever 1/2" for 1/4" tubing and depending on the amount you flatten, it usually turn up near 5/8-3/4" gap so on so forth. If you'd like some help on the design or anything else you know where I am.

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