|09-05-2006 02:42 AM|
|malc||akm is outta here|
|09-04-2006 08:30 AM|
Selling to Australians.
First...make sure the buyer is in fact in Australia,and why he would want to buy this way is beyond me,beause there are hundreds of early stangs here,all imported from the US,BUT he must have an "approval to import" form from thre Australian governement BEFORE he does any deals.No form ,no import.
Approval forms here
Use Paypal,he only gets your paypal address. No pay,no car ...simple.
|04-17-2006 12:14 AM|
Yes, I see no problem with that It just you cars ID number thats all.
You could walk around any car show and see them to, It just tells the guy about the car.
|04-16-2006 10:55 PM|
|akm||Is it safe to give him the VIN number for the car? He says he needs it for shipping...|
|04-14-2006 09:49 PM|
Mosstrooper, I agree it would be a no mess deal, But thats something the buyer would deal with. I think the buyer is trying to save some bucks. I remember hims saying something adout that.
|04-14-2006 04:01 PM|
I would like to make one or two comments here.
As someone from the UK who has thought about buying from the USA I would like to say.
1) I would never expect the seller to take anything to do with shipping, handling, paperwork or any other thing connected with getting the car away from his driveway.
2) I would never expect to have to do any of these things myself.
Neither I, nor the seller has any experience of these matters and any attempt at do-it-yourself is bound to end in tears.
There are companies here in the UK who will bring anything to my door, all I have to do is tell them where it is, sign a contract, pay an upfront deposit and the agreed remainder when the car is on UK soil. The Company pays the seller in Dollars, pick up of the car, all the shipping and Taxes and bills me at the end. I don't have to know your Bank Details or any other personal details, and you don't have to know mine.
I see PayPal mentioned here.
This is becoming a bad word here, caused by buyers claiming the goods are not as described or damaged. PayPal refunds their money and they keep the goods, unless you are prepared to go and collect them. Australia seems a long way to me.
|04-14-2006 03:15 PM|
I'll keep you updated!
p.s. thanks killer, I forgot to edit that out!
|04-14-2006 02:47 PM|
Cool, Its all sounding good to me so far I don't have a problem with anything he or you said. I think your fine so far. The test is getting the deposit. Send a pic of the vin is no problem. A copy of the title I would just check with the dmv but still not a problem. Did you read the customs deal he going to need paper work to show owner ship. i still would call customs just to make sure. but still I'm not seeing any problem that can't be work out.
Keep us up dated would like to see how this all works out.
|04-14-2006 11:43 AM|
The last couple of e-mails:
|04-14-2006 07:55 AM|
Hear you go http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/export/ex...or_vehicle.xml
|04-14-2006 07:35 AM|
Ok I read the complete deal.
One I would not do the shipping he has got to arrange it.
If he has the vin he can have it check out there are company that do title search Or you can got down to the DMV and have them do one and he could see the print out and could problem tell about sell a car to a foreign buyer
but not a good copy of the title.
and last all that has to be done at custom be for they will release it to be ship anyway.
I would never give your license out. I'm sure custom can solve a lot of you concerns and so could you bank.
So if you think about it you have a lot of hoop to jump through before you do any thing else
1. call customs
2.talk to your bank
3.talk to the dmv
4. set up the deal so you feel good about what you doing. it you car its you terms.
|04-14-2006 06:54 AM|
Well Ive done this before and your right it is on you checks an it is how you tranfer funds from one account to anouther but I not sure if it workes the same way over there now the guy is telling you if you don't feel wright he's willing to do paypal. I don't see anything missleading in that.The other thing you can do is go down to you bank and show them the e-mail and ask them if this is correct. you still got a ton of detail tell you get to that point. He's still got a lot of question about the car I would working on that first . I would tell him I want to make sure you happy first with what you see and then we can talk money shipping I think I would ask him if he is going to have anyone inspect the car. to back up your clams. in the mean time you can check with the bank call custom so on an so Don't let this guy rush you. So slow down take it step by step. Go to the customs web site talk to your bank get inform before you talk to this guy. yea its a deal not tell the fat lady sings.
|04-14-2006 05:03 AM|
Doc's right. Don't give out all of your info. Money is one thing but identity theft is another. Not that this guy isn't on the up and up, but with a copy of the title, he can have another made and you just stole his car. With your bank account info, he just cleaned you out. And with using an anonymous e-mail mailer (there are programs out there) he could look like he is from Ozland but in all actuality, he could be just around the corner from you. You have to decide on your own to what degree of trust you want to stop at. Personally, I would want his phone number and spend a few bucks and talk to him on the phone. Secondly, if he can PayPal you the deposit, he can PayPal the rest of the money. Or as someone stated, a cashiers check by snail mail. It sounds as if he doesn't trust you but you are supposed to trust him. Scams happen this way everyday. You are selling and he wants to buy. Put the burden of trust on his shoulders and if he wants it so badly then he will have to trust you. Anytime that you make deals over the internet, things can get iffy. And if you don't sell items like this on a regular basis, then you don't have the knowledge as to what can go wrong. And if you ship it overseas, and the deal goes sour, then is he going to ship the car back to you? I very seriously doubt it. And even if you hold the title until he gets the car and you get the rest of the money....well he wanted a copy of the title to begin with, so what would keep him from having a duplicate made? And would you travel to Australia at your expense to get things straightened out? You wouldn't know where to start.
If he wants the car so badly, then supply him with any picture that he wants. Remember.....you are the one that advertised it for sale. He did not advertise as wanting to buy a Mustang convert. Supply him with any picture, get a deposit, let him make the shipping arrangements, if you have to show that you have a clean title, then get an attorney to make up a legal letter stating the title is clean, get the rest of the money, a drop off the car wherever it needs to be shipped from. You are selling, you should not have to do all of the legwork that goes along with it. Once all of the money clears, then you can send him the title and the car will arrive shortly after that. It's no different than on EBay. If you send a personal check, they hold off shipping for ten days until the check clears, then you get the merchandise.
|04-14-2006 01:22 AM|
All this fool needs is your SSAN and Birth Cert..and guess what ? He's you and your screwed..
My Ex~wifes Knew less about me at divorce..What's this guy want a DNA sample too?
With the information he wants you to send, I suppose I could get a Car titled in my name just about anywhere in the world..before it ever arrived at the docks..and all for the cost of shipping and a 10% Deposit..
Truthfully, I'd pass on this idiot..you can sell the car to someone else in the states for about the same price..and keep more in your pocket then it will cost to deal with this fool..
What is the deal about shipping? It would seem he thinks you are paying for that by his email? True or not? For that alone I'd blow him off..ship is his problem..
If you want to do a deal, Tell him this is how this is gonna shake out.. have a mutual bank picked as an escrow holder for a period of 10 days (or until the funds CLEAR) Then the bank sends the funds to your account, and the title and notarized bill of sale are sent to him and shipping can begin (they can preload..but not ship or leave the dock prior to that date..unless released by the bank)
Any other way and it's gonna cost you major bucks in fees..and don't forget also..you get an IRS flag on this transaction here..you will have to pay taxes on that also (transactions over $10,000)
The latest and greatest Scam is Forged Cashier's Checks..the Check hits your account, you send the Vehicle..title ET&AL..ten days later the Check comes back as forged..Treasury Agents are knocking on your door..your out 45 grand..and the Car..and no way to catch up with this guy..
OR you can offer him a reduction of half his airfare to the states to BRING you cash (not a check..)..and leave with the car and title ...
Blow him off..more trouble than it's worth..
I just reread the Emial post..Is this deal 45 grand, or 45 hundred? ..If $4500, it's not worth the trouble..I thought it was 45 grand..
|04-14-2006 12:25 AM|
There's no reason to give anybody your account info like that, although what he asked for is nothing that's not printed on a standard check (account and routing number, full name and address of bank).
Are you comfortable paying the service fee from paypal (3% I believe) on your money? If so, just have him send the entire payment that way!
Find out what city he's from and find what money transfer services are available. There's no reason he can't use just a regular cashier's check or money order either. IN that case you'd just wait for said item to clear and take the money.
That said, this guy does sound a little backward. Just be cautious and put yourself first in the transaction. Dont give anybody anything until you have cash in your hand (I.e. a cleared check amount). At this point I think you can assume that you're not going to get that, and that this is a sham.
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