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05-02-2006 05:18 PM
Originally Posted by 65Mustang289HIPO
These are compliments of 65Stanger THANKS A TON!!!






Doc here,

Where arew your photos uploaded at? The [Img] [/img] limk is incorrect because there is no upload port to search from..

In order for it to work , the photos must be uploaded somewhere, like your photo archive, and that address reflectd in the [img] search command.

Example: [img] archive/my photo.jpg/ [/img]

In order to function.

05-02-2006 11:59 AM
red65mustang THANKS for the big chuckle hipo!

"65stanger" is a 17 year old member!!! workin on a 65 6 cylinder

most here just call me Red

diagrams didn't post, try using the "manage attachments" toward the bottem

....excuse me for awhile, gotta clean the coffee off the keyboard...laughed to hard
05-02-2006 11:45 AM
65Mustang289HIPO These are compliments of 65Stanger THANKS A TON!!!





04-25-2006 06:02 PM
docvette Doc here,


I will send you a PM , But you Should go to and open a free account and upload all those schematics.

Under the photo they give an [img] my photo [/img] statement you just cut and paste in your message here, and the photo appears in your post..

I have tons of schematics now and have a problem with managment of them now. (plus my scanner is dying..waiting for a sale..)

04-25-2006 04:47 AM
red65mustang doc, do PM me, let me email these (very well detailed-color codes and illustrations) wiring diagrams to you, each is about 400k,
(crop and/or re-size with my editor won't knock them down below the 300k limit?????)
so we all can use them on future threads as attached thumbnails
04-24-2006 09:01 PM
docvette Doc here,

Here ya go...

Start system for a 65 Mustang:

04-24-2006 08:27 PM
65Mustang289HIPO Cool, thanx for the info gentlemen. Looks like I have some work to do in the morning and hopefully by the afternoon there will be a happy conclusion to the debauchery I instilled on my baby!!!
04-24-2006 08:15 PM
red65mustang normally it is embossed in the plastic just above the small posts...check there

as in the picture, S=left I=right with mount flange on top
04-24-2006 07:52 PM
65Mustang289HIPO One more thing ... from left to right on the picture of that solenoid ... which one is the "I" post and which is the "S" post?
04-24-2006 07:44 PM
Originally Posted by docvette
Doc here,

BTW, that solenoid on EBAY can be had at auto zombie for about $7 bucks..what a rip off..

Good to know if i need another one...which I prolly will. Am gonna test when my buddy gets home and see whats going on.

BTW What will happen if the solenoid is fused...another rerun of the starter shorting out? What is the best way to turn off the car/starter is this happens (disconnect battery)?

OH AND: PM sent for those diagrams!!! I'm down by Disney!!!
04-24-2006 07:28 PM
docvette Doc here,

If you didn't wipe out the solenoid, simply reverse the "S" and "I" wires at the front of the solenoid, It should run fine then...If the contacts didn't get welded..

To test , use a test lamp or meter, on one wire either one, and turn the switch on..If it lights the lamp or reads 12 volts, that goes to the "I" terminal..

Then test the other, The lamp or meter should only indicate in the "Start position" on the key switch and decline when released to the run position...If it does, that wire goes to the "S" terminal.

That should straighten it out.

BTW, that solenoid on EBAY can be had at auto zombie for about $7 bucks..what a rip off..

04-24-2006 07:27 PM
red65mustang send me a PM with your email address and I can send you the complete car wiring diagrams,
files are just hair over the post limit to attach here

haven't figured out what you did wrong yet or everything you do need to test

where in FL roughly are you

Matt,Doc, PM me with email if you wish, Falcon=Mustang=Comet
04-24-2006 07:15 PM
65Mustang289HIPO Ok, just went to look under the hood and it seems that the solenoid is what I was referring to as the starter switch/relay, which was smoking. I tried to start her yesterday and when she kicked to life the starter would not disengage and just kept running. It sounded as if it were stuck on with power to it and would not shut off. This only happens when the engine is running. The left post (small one) is connected to a brown wire. The right (small) post is connected to a red and blue wire. The left post (large) is connected to the starter and the right post (large) is connected to the battery and the voltage regulator. Does the alternator connect to the right post (large) where the battery is connected?

To shut off the starter I loosened the nut on the left post (big) that was connected to the starter and i shut the starter off but the engine stayed on. The next time this didn't work and I unplugged the left post (small) and the engine shut off but the starter continued to crank with the key in the ON position (this is when I got the smoke out of it). So if I had the alternator plugged into the battery/solenoid right why would the starter not shut off? Is the solenoid fried and thats it....

The more I learn the more I believe I had it hooked up correctly so what the hell happened? The engine does not just start once the key is in the on position...but will not turn off when I turn the key to the off position which is why I thought I had the alternator hooked up wrong.

BTW this is a picture of what I was calling a starter switch/relay...

EDIT: When I say left I mean looking over the passenger side fender of the car down at the solenoid (which is mounted on the inner passenger side fender) ... so opposite of whats in the picture of the link.
04-24-2006 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by matt167
any wires that look bubbully or burnt. there are 2 posts for small wire to go on the relay, there is a start terminal labeled S connected to the red wire and a L ( I think ) that is the black wire. how did u cross those wires? if u cross the red wire to the pos side of the battery, it will turn the motor over, so from what I'm getting, you hooked the alt direct to this?
I hooked the alternator directly to the Big post where the battery is directly connected!

Also thanks for the solenoid test Doc....Now if I can just get ahold of a voltage meter to do the test....time to go looking in the closet (of my roomate)
04-24-2006 06:54 PM
docvette Doc here,

After reading your replies, I think we are having some SERIOUS mis communications here..

When you say switch..Are you talking about the place where the key goes in? OR are you talking about the solenoid???

The solenoid will have two large cables on it and two smaller wires on the front marked "S" and "I'.. = SOLENOID..

If you reversed the "S" and "I" wires, the starter will turn the engine anytime the key is on because the primary Ignition is back feeding the "s" terminal where the "I" wire was mistakenly put.

When you say the starter just runs all the time, do you mean without engine running or with it running? You said you had to remove the ground cable to shut it off..the engine or the starter?

The alternator wire goes to the battery side of the solenoid (big bolt) and should not effect run on if everything else is properly hooked up..

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