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05-15-2006 11:37 AM
85silverado Well as far as I can understand, we here in Canada already have 10% ethanol fuel no matter where u go?. It won't hurt anything, the reason it is used in canada is as a gasline antifreeze, plus it is also a little water soluble, in case u accidentally get water in ur tank, a little water won't damage ur engine, not that water is good to put in lol haha.
05-15-2006 06:38 AM
lakeroadster Heck we can even make it easy for all you people buying into the ethanol scam.................... http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/gas-...ork-87597.html
05-15-2006 06:03 AM
Hippie
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Originally Posted by killerformula
This is a strait-forward question with a simple answer. We don't need to turn somebody else's thread into a personal soapbox to tout political agendas. Answer the guy's question and take the rest of it to the lounge.

K
Thank you.
05-14-2006 11:02 PM
killerformula
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Originally Posted by Greg Bull
I live in Virginia and have a 1967 Corvette w/ a 327/350 having a compression ratio of 11.25 to 1. Parts of Virginia have just switched to 10% ethanol gas and concerned if ethanol mix will cause any running and/or engine problems.

Greg B

This is a strait-forward question with a simple answer. We don't need to turn somebody else's thread into a personal soapbox to tout political agendas. Answer the guy's question and take the rest of it to the lounge.

K
05-14-2006 10:22 PM
Blazin72 Dont know if the two are related or not but it was not that long ago that diesel was cheaper than regular unleaded, then the popularity of diesel pickups exploded....
05-14-2006 09:54 PM
Ozz1967 The problem with Diesel in America is that it costs more than regular unleaded and it pollutes more. I know down here in New Mexico diesel runs about $.30 more than regular unldeaded. Over in Europe they have pretty good emissions controls on diesel and the price is much cheaper than regular unleaded. When I left Germany in Early 2005, we were paying 1.20 Euro ($1.50) per litre for regular unleaded compared to 1.00 or even 90 euro cents per litre for diesel. It's just about 4 litres per gallon for those of you who don't want to do the math. So they are building their diesels better over there. Until they put better emissions on diesel vehicles and bring the price down here in the US I don't see us changing any time soon.
05-14-2006 09:11 PM
xntrik
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Originally Posted by JonasB
Commie China and bla bla bla, so what?
Soon there are no oil left so what you gonna do then? Sit in a car you cant drive and shout: its the commie bastards fault???

No man, the anwer is convert the car to drive on 100 percent ethanol.
until the infrastructure exists what shall we do, sit on our hands until they get numb and ......?
05-14-2006 08:05 PM
jollyroger Did anyone notice the diesel Audi outrun most of the cars in the last endurance race. Think Bio-diesel(vegetable oil.) What do you think the diesel was designed to run? Make it out of corn or what ever. Doesn't even stink like petrolem diesel. smells like ...well vegetable oil.
05-14-2006 07:48 PM
JonasB Commie China and bla bla bla, so what?
Soon there are no oil left so what you gonna do then? Sit in a car you cant drive and shout: its the commie bastards fault???

No man, the anwer is convert the car to drive on 100 percent ethanol.
05-14-2006 05:12 PM
xntrik
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick WI
I can't say I ever notice a difference on mileage in the past with 10% ethanol versus 100% gasoline.

X, China consumes about 5.5 million barrels a day of oil. The US is a tic over 20 million. The US consumes 25% of the world energy supply. WE are the ones that need to change our ways.


And WE WILL change our ways, very soon.

The forecast made in October 2004 for China's rate of consumption to reduce did not come to pass, and in fact continues to increase.

Actually China consumption was 6.39 million in 2004 and expected to exceed 7 million per day in 2006. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/.../2174rank.html

Commie China is the # 2 oil consumer in the world today and forecast to exceed the USA in oil consumption by 2014 (8 years), at current rates. (think about that, seriously)

China is buying wood, steel, and oil, (etc) at record rates and prices to fuel their economy and paying for it using the USA money we send them at $ 50 BILLION dollars deficite each month.

People complain about the IRAQI WAR cost...... look at the money we send our enemy China every month because Mable shops at Wally World while her husband is working for $ 7 hr because his $ 20 hr job went to China or Mexico.

If Iran, Iraq, Saudi, the Muslims, and Commie China solely controlled 75 % of the world's known oil reserves do you think that they would let us buy oil for $ 5 barrel so we could have cheap gasoline?

Go to google and plug in "china oil consumption".

The world is doing 80 million barrels per day NOW.

A quote from
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/...ent_289499.htm

"Research by China's Ministry of Communications on marine oil transportation predicted that the country would import 100 million tons of crude oil in 2005, 150 million tons in 2010 and in 2020 the number would soar to 250 to 300 million."


Picture this..... Commie China and The USA,
EACH consuming 22 million barrels of oil per day......

Oh ya,,,,, and turn off that light.
05-14-2006 04:22 PM
Rick WI I can't say I ever notice a difference on mileage in the past with 10% ethanol versus 100% gasoline.

X, China consumes about 5.5 million barrels a day of oil. The US is a tic over 20 million. The US consumes 25% of the world energy supply. WE are the ones that need to change our ways.
05-14-2006 04:07 PM
xntrik
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Originally Posted by Ozz1967
Well, with the oil crunch coming as it is, the 89 octane Ethanol mix here is running the same price as regular unleaded. So I use it. /shrug
True, that makes it 10 cents cheaper per gallon by octane rating..... but when you have to use 91+ like some of mine..... and NON-ethanol is not available........ losing 6 % is no fun.

That is $ 2.75 times 6 % = 16.5 cents per gallon equivalent..... !!!!!!!!!!!!

16.5 minus 10 = 6.5 loss.....

So I lose $$$$$$$$ every gallon.

I think that since Commie China is consuming world oil at record rates.... we will never see prices lower than $ 2.50 again.

Take Commie China out of the world consumption figures and the oil surplus would push our prices to $ 1.50 instantly.
05-14-2006 03:01 PM
Ozz1967 Well, with the oil crunch coming as it is, the 89 octane Ethanol mix here is running the same price as regular unleaded. So I use it. /shrug
05-14-2006 12:51 PM
xntrik My cars lose about 6 % gas mileage across the board. BMW-5, TownCar, Mustang GTs, 4.6 and 5.0, etc.

We don't have it here, and I avoid it whenever possible.

My 2000 TC consistently drops a full 6 % on an interstate trip when I have to buy fuel in Illinois.... tried it several times.
05-14-2006 06:36 AM
Greg Bull
10% ethanol

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick WI
There won't be an issues Greg. We have had ethanol for years here is WI and have put quite a few restored Corvette motors out on the road. It will run no different on the 10% than it did on the MTBE blend you ran before.
Thanks for the info Rick.
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