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11-18-2007 03:13 AM
Kusto Sorry if this created any turmoil. I did initially make the request for a line drawing but after looking a various renderings, I do see the value in having something that is custom that is done to my taste and I really do not mind paying for it. Heck some people pay for a generic picture that is only similar to their own vehicle. To be honest it was not DV's post that made me change my mind rather that it was seeing the things that someone with his talent can achieve that made me think that maybe I should go another direction from the line drawing to a rendering not to mention having a line drawing without the creativity to create a custom looking paint scheme really does me no good. If I had an idea that I was satisfied with I would not have made the request in the first place.

DV - obviously you enjoy what you are doing and I hope that this discussion has not discouraged you from helping others with simpler tasks as you had in the past.

pigjam - thanks for looking out for others but I willingly requested the assistance of DV in a PM and I again apologize if this has created any hard feelings.
11-17-2007 06:44 PM
pigjamelectric No, Iím not jealous DV. I regret if I might have come across that way. I appreciate your work and admire your talent. I even made a comment on your Impala thread a month or so ago.

I tried to help Kusto with those instructions. He declined my offer to draw. Iím still willing to draw it if he changes his mind.

As you say, it does say something to give advice or help out a fellow HR for free. Thatís what I what I like about this place.

Peace.

Paul.
11-17-2007 06:05 PM
DVierstra
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigjamelectric
My reply was based entirely upon the request made by Kusto in his first post.

He requested a line drawing. I gave him instructions on how he could make his own. He stated that he does not own Photoshop. I said how he could do his rendering on Paint, which he does own.

Look at it this way. It's as if Kusto had an idea for a song and that he wanted to borrow someone's tape recorder so he could have a listen back. You responded by offering to charge him to use your tape recorder, and then trying to upsell him a 24 track recording, "for a fraction of the cost". This isn't just tacky, but it goes against the forum guidelines.


You offered your work for a price in the forum. If you're here to make money off HR members, you'll soon find your posts edited (as your first one in this thread has already been), and you may find yourself labeled not unlike the GMG guys who posted here on HR.

Also, I assure you I appreciate the time it takes for quality work, whether it be drawing, playing a musical instrument, or sports, anything. I'm obviously not as talented as you are in drawing. But you will never see me challenge you or anyone else at drums, guitar or hockey, or drop names just to prove how good I am at it.

My apologies. Out of line. I will only offer to help with photo chops. Only if someone asks me directly. Nothing more. I do not have to "Name drop", or prove anything. Your post came across as jealousy. If you were offering to help him... why didn't you? I am giving more than advice or direction. For example...if someone wanted you to sand a few fenders a week for free on a weekly basis and then they wanted you to paint it would you offer it for free?

I offer a lot for free. Therefore, I believe I am being supportive to other members. That says something, doesn't it? I will no longer post any illustration offerings. Thank You.
11-17-2007 05:34 PM
pigjamelectric My reply was based entirely upon the request made by Kusto in his first post.

He requested a line drawing. I gave him instructions on how he could make his own. He stated that he does not own Photoshop. I said how he could do his rendering on Paint, which he does own.

Look at it this way. It's as if Kusto had an idea for a song and that he wanted to borrow someone's tape recorder so he could have a listen back. You responded by offering to charge him to use your tape recorder, and then trying to upsell him a 24 track recording, "for a fraction of the cost". This isn't just tacky, but it goes against the forum guidelines.


You offered your work for a price in the forum. If you're here to make money off HR members, you'll soon find your posts edited (as your first one in this thread has already been), and you may find yourself labeled not unlike the GMG guys who posted here on HR.

Also, I assure you I appreciate the time it takes for quality work, whether it be drawing, playing a musical instrument, or sports, anything. I'm obviously not as talented as you are in drawing. But you will never see me challenge you or anyone else at drums, guitar or hockey, or drop names just to prove how good I am at it.
11-17-2007 04:08 PM
DVierstra
Quote:
Originally Posted by pigjamelectric
Kusto, don't pay for a line drawing. You're wasting your money. And DV, nobody's ever charged for something so simple to help out a fellow HR. There are lots people on here who have lent their talent doing artwork and not asking anything in return but a simple thank-you.

Kusto, here's how you can do it simple. If you have an empty aquarium or a sheet of glass, put a light under it pointing up. Put a printout of the truck you want, put a blank sheet over top of it and trace it out with a pencil.

Next, take a sharpie and ink those pencil lines. Scan that picture, open it up in Paint, save as a bitmap, not a jpeg. Jpeg will blur on you everytime you save. Bitmap will stay clean. This will be your template.
Save a new version and call it something else. Play with it.

If you think you might have trouble tracing or with any of these steps, hell, I'll do it for you myself for free.

Paul.
pigjamelectric,
That is the trouble with people who do not value the hard work that goes into
"quality work." Trust me...I do "freebies" all the time. Only with quick Photo Chopping. Too many artists work for nothing and that has devalued them. Would you like to come over and work on my car? For Free? Yeah would you like to rebuild my 260? I put at least four hours a week doing forum members cars for free. At least four other forums (Lateral-G.net for one). Just Photo chops. Illustrations take 12 to 20 hours of work! Do you think Foose does his work for free? No! He charges $5 G's for one original drawings. I know Foose personally and have worked with him. Also worked with Jesse James and am working on a pilot for a show that may be out next year. I only charge a fraction of that. It is a lot less than I would normally charge. Who would buy quality artwork at Wal-Mart? Nobody could . Can you get custom quality work there? I doubt it. I do like helping people out and have helped many people on this forum as well. But there is a limit on my time.


Also...why for Pete's sake would anybody do a rendering in MS Paint?
Kusto may not have the time to just "mess" with something. I am sure he saw the value in what I do. Otherwise he would not have asked the right questions. If you could provide the services for free AND do the quality work that I do...be my guest.

Lets see what you can do...I'm waiting.
11-17-2007 03:21 PM
Chevrolet4x4s Here you go I just snapped a pic of it.If you need a scan so itll be clearer I'll do that.Bed is shorter than a normal F-1 Since I decided to draw a rpu version.

Shane
11-17-2007 12:06 PM
Kusto
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevrolet4x4s
I just sketched a roadster version of one today,If you need a scan of it I'll put it up
Shane
Shane: Thanks lets have a look if you don't mind.
Pigjam & Mrwood: I appreciate the support but I don't think that it is a simple as others I have seen on here where they supply an image of their own vehicle to be modified for color and design....He would have to go off various examples that would require a fair bit of work. I have been talking to DV about doing a digital rendering of my truck rather than a simple line drawing.

I myself am not terribly familiar with the program and find it would be a difficult task to render a concept image from nothing.
11-17-2007 11:08 AM
Mrwood
re: Looking for drawing of 1948 F-1

Quote:
Originally Posted by pigjamelectric
Kusto, don't pay for a line drawing. You're wasting your money. And DV, nobody's ever charged for something so simple to help out a fellow HR. There are lots people on here who have lent their talent doing artwork and not asking anything in return but a simple thank-you.

Kusto, here's how you can do it simple. If you have an empty aquarium or a sheet of glass, put a light under it pointing up. Put a printout of the truck you want, put a blank sheet over top of it and trace it out with a pencil.

Next, take a sharpie and ink those pencil lines. Scan that picture, open it up in Paint, save as a bitmap, not a jpeg. Jpeg will blur on you everytime you save. Bitmap will stay clean. This will be your template.

Save a new version and call it something else. Play with it.

If you think you might have trouble tracing or with any of these steps, hell, I'll do it for you myself for free.

Paul.

I agree with you. This site and the folks who are about building there cars and trucks give of there time, and do it because they like to help others out. I would never have got my chevy done as far as i did if i would of had to pay all you guys and gals for your help. Thats what makes this site so special to me. Its all about people helping people, no matter what your working on, or what you need.
11-17-2007 08:32 AM
pigjamelectric Kusto, don't pay for a line drawing. You're wasting your money. And DV, nobody's ever charged for something so simple to help out a fellow HR. There are lots people on here who have lent their talent doing artwork and not asking anything in return but a simple thank-you.

Kusto, here's how you can do it simple. If you have an empty aquarium or a sheet of glass, put a light under it pointing up. Put a printout of the truck you want, put a blank sheet over top of it and trace it out with a pencil.

Next, take a sharpie and ink those pencil lines. Scan that picture, open it up in Paint, save as a bitmap, not a jpeg. Jpeg will blur on you everytime you save. Bitmap will stay clean. This will be your template.

Save a new version and call it something else. Play with it.

If you think you might have trouble tracing or with any of these steps, hell, I'll do it for you myself for free.

Paul.
11-16-2007 09:55 PM
Chevrolet4x4s I just sketched a roadster version of one today,If you need a scan of it I'll put it up
Shane
11-16-2007 10:27 AM
Kusto Hey guys, thanks for the response. Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you as I had forgotten to turn on email notification for my posts and just assumed that no one had commented.

Deuce - I have plenty of color photos of these trucks but I was looking for a line drawing that I could use to determine a paint scheme. I have since been in contact with DV and we are discussing having a rendering done for me.
10-11-2007 02:16 PM
DVierstra
Quote:
Looking for drawing of 1948 F-1
If anyone knows where I might find a picture of a '48-50 Ford F-1 pickup I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking for something that I can use as a template to draw paint schemes etc. I don't have or know how to use photo shop.

Thanks in advance
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I can create something for you. Let me know if you are interested...here's a illustration of a truck I did. Can do different combos at a reasonable price. If you still want a line drawing I can provide that too for a reasonable cost. See link at bottom of this post. There is contact info on my page.


Regards,

DV




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10-07-2007 05:50 PM
Deuce
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kusto
If anyone knows where I might find a picture of a '48-50 Ford F-1 pickup I would greatly appreciate it.


Lots of 1948 to 1950 F-1 Ford pickups are here ... http://www.carnut.com/photo/list/flist.html
10-07-2007 04:15 PM
Kusto
Looking for drawing of 1948 F-1

If anyone knows where I might find a picture of a '48-50 Ford F-1 pickup I would greatly appreciate it. I am looking for something that I can use as a template to draw paint schemes etc. I don't have or know how to use photo shop.

Thanks in advance

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