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06-21-2008 02:27 AM
"70" Cougar Well i stoped in at lordco. and i figured lets track it back to what distributer and go from there. We see the page and says in a bright yellow blerb across a pic of my distributer, " modual inside" .... so i just pulled the thing out and they said bring it back on monday for my money. put the orange back to the + on the coil, and up it started.
06-20-2008 07:26 PM
T-bucket23
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Originally Posted by ceh383
It's strange to me that they would have you use the points trigger wire when that distributor has a magnetic trigger.
You have a "ready to run" distributor and an msd ignition box, I'd return the distributor and get one of THESE.
In a ready to run the output that goes to the coil emulates what a points signal would look like. I am guessing that there is something else connected to the coil.
06-20-2008 07:20 PM
T-bucket23 The also should be nothing on the the coil except the 2 wires from the MSD box. If you have your tach connected there, remove it. The tach MUST be connected to the lug on the MSD box. The dealer you purchased the items from sold you more than you need. It looks like with the read to run distributor they do triger off the white wire so that is not your issue.
06-20-2008 05:36 PM
"70" Cougar Well Irelands child.... i appreciate the help. as far as me and " my choice" i'll suck it up and say if this is indeed the type of distributer that i need not use a msd box with, i didn't know or do enough research. I wasn't told that ready to run means you do not need to run the msd ign. box. I'll double check again with the tech's at msd and find out for sure. All i can say on my part is when i went in to the store i told the parts person " i have a ford ready to run MSD distributer and a MSD blaster 2 coil can you find the MSD ign. box i need to run with this set up" If he didn't catch that i didn't need it, maybe there's a chance i can take it back. but being that i've totally installed it i may be out my $250 or so dollars
06-20-2008 02:47 PM
malc
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Originally Posted by Bart
Dammint I never thought of checking their website out, thanks for the link.
06-20-2008 02:34 PM
Bart I would try

http://www.msdignition.com/forum/
06-20-2008 11:36 AM
Irelands child Two things - the MSD colors on the wires are not particularly good on mine - though mine is a small diameter billet, the orange and red might just be connected backwards.

Next - have you tried the distributor without the control box? There is the outside chance that there is a fault inside the dist itself. If it's the 8350 and ready to run - then use the other diagram just for a check. Quite frankly, you've defeated the purpose of the ready to run feature by using the control box - but of course that was your choice

Dave W
06-20-2008 09:07 AM
matt167 generally if you use the white points trigger wire on a magnetic pickup distributor, it won't work. the points trigger wire takes a supplied voltage from the points, of 6-9 volts.. magnetic pickups operate in MV range as they generate the A/C current that is used.

A ready to run distributor would be capable of charging the coil on it's own. so it's output could use the white points trigger in theory but it still makes no sense to do so when the MSD box is going to control the coil

a quick test to see what you really need... unplug the switched ignition 12v source from the distributor.. disconnect the orange from the white wire, crank the motor over and see if you get a reading in MV by testing the orange wire and ground wire with a volt meter.. set to A/C reading. if you do, then you can leave the switched ignition source unplugged. and hook up the magnetic pickup wires to the orange and black wires..
06-20-2008 08:11 AM
malc These are the instructions for MSD-8360 also a ready to run distributor.
Take a look and go to page six, "Ready to run distributors do not require an MSD ignition,though they can be used with one".
That is what "70" Cougar has used, that setup.
If we knew his distributor Im sure we could sort this.


Edit;
In the instructions for the MSD box the MSD Ford ready to run distributor is not covered just the MSD-8360 for Chevy.
Thought, Chevies go clockwise, Fords counterclockwise, maybe ?
06-20-2008 08:02 AM
malc
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Originally Posted by malc
That thumbnail pic of a distributor is for a small/big block Chevy, not using that are you ?
Obviously that wont fit or work.
But I would like to know the actual part number of the distributor youre using.
06-20-2008 07:44 AM
ceh383 It's strange to me that they would have you use the points trigger wire when that distributor has a magnetic trigger.
You have a "ready to run" distributor and an msd ignition box, I'd return the distributor and get one of THESE.
06-20-2008 07:41 AM
malc That thumbnail pic of a distributor is for a small/big block Chevy, not using that are you ?
06-20-2008 07:27 AM
"70" Cougar nono.. not twards you.. just gettin frustrated at the situation. thanks again i'll run over those conections again.
bill c
06-20-2008 07:15 AM
malc "I used two of the supplied connecters the blue guillotine style with the metal that cuts into both"

Id check those out, the best connection is spliced and soldered, then shrink wrapped.


"are you **** ing me why would those"

BTW, I dont need expletives even if they are censored,
just trying to help.
06-20-2008 06:39 AM
"70" Cougar hey smrat, well the diagram says i should use the white wire. As for the msd distributer they looked up one for my application. 351C. and the box said ready to run ford distributer looks like the pic you posted sept the cap is all red and it has the pedestal mounted wire holder on top. I really don't get why it won't work as is. I did read that your not supposed to use the magnetic pickup and the white wire at the same time " do not". This schematic was the only one that looked like my set up.
thanks again
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