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07-13-2008 11:11 PM
C-10
Quote:
Originally Posted by UtahAdventureGuide
I'm replacing the rear quarter panel..........
What do you recommend?

Thanks
Lincoln 140c
.025 wire
75% Argon, 25% Co2 gas.

IMO the most bang for the buck.
07-13-2008 09:26 PM
mike6845 [QUOTE=Rambo_The_Dog]For welding sheet metal - I do prefer the 110v, the 220v even on the lowest setting is a little more difficult to weld sheet metal with in comparision.

For maximum versatility though a 220v gives you more options for welding heavier stock.

As mike mentioned the welding method makes a difference and you can also use a copper sheet directly behind the weld to help burn thru issues and heat dissapation and there are also compounds that help prevent warpage like this stuff I got from Eastwood.

[That Eastwood stuff sorta reminds me of the old days when we used wet rags to keep the heat down and prevent warpage when brazing a piece of sheet metal. Thank God for MIG welders for this job, it sure makes a difficult job a lot easier. Oh BTW, we finished by using lead and not bondo and some of the stuff we did then is still around.
07-02-2008 09:17 AM
Rambo_The_Dog
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike6845
Yes, by all means get a MIG welder and a small bottle of C25/75 gas and use 0.023 solid wire. The trick is to not lay down a continous bead but to do a bunch of spot welds bringing them ever closer together in order to keep the heat and warpage down. Look in your local trader papers, Craigslist, e-bay, etc and try to find a good used Miller, Hobart, or Lincoln only, no chicom crap or HF junk for this one. If at all possible get a 220 version if you are wired for it. I've got a Hobart 187 and love it.
For welding sheet metal - I do prefer the 110v, the 220v even on the lowest setting is a little more difficult to weld sheet metal with in comparision.

For maximum versatility though a 220v gives you more options for welding heavier stock.

As mike mentioned the welding method makes a difference and you can also use a copper sheet directly behind the weld to help burn thru issues and heat dissapation and there are also compounds that help prevent warpage like this stuff I got from Eastwood.

07-02-2008 07:17 AM
Irelands child I'll throw my nickel in here - if your shop has 220VAC that's the best in my opinion. I bought a little Lincoln 120V gas unit that has done everything that I have asked it to do only because I didn't have 220V at the time. The 110V unit does have the advantage of portability - I did some welding - 3 times on a friends tractor - and was able to do it in his 110V only barn.

Brand names - Lincoln, Miller, Hobart, ESAB are some good ones that come to mind and I believe all are US made and all have good repair parts availabilty. Who knows with the off shore brands if parts will be available after purchase. Expect to spend $5-600 for the gas option version.

Of course - these are my opinions

Dave W
07-01-2008 06:33 PM
oldschoolrods
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldred
Yes HF does have some genuine Hobart machines and occasionally (don't know why they don't have them all the time? ) they even have genuine Victor torch outfits.
depends on when the train carrying victor torches derails

I did have a chance to do some welding with a little 110 hobart and it is a pretty darn good unit I believe tractor supply also carries hobart.
07-01-2008 05:19 PM
oldred Yes HF does have some genuine Hobart machines and occasionally (don't know why they don't have them all the time? ) they even have genuine Victor torch outfits.
07-01-2008 05:05 PM
matt167 http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...f&brand=Hobart

does not look like they have very many to choose from now, but they do sell them... I have used the Ironman 210 b4, and it is a nice welder
07-01-2008 04:52 PM
mike6845
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt167
Harbor Freight does have good prices on Hobart Welders.
I've never seen any Hobart product at H.F. but who is to say it will never happen, Actually I got my HH187 from Sears when they were running a 20% off free freight program. I think my cost was approx $560 or so. Like I said, it does everything I can think of for it very well. I also have at TD39 plasma cutter and talk about a wonder toy, this is it. Next week I pick up my Miller Syncrowave TIG welder. Christmas is early this year.
07-01-2008 04:15 PM
matt167
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike6845
Yes, by all means get a MIG welder and a small bottle of C25/75 gas and use 0.023 solid wire. The trick is to not lay down a continous bead but to do a bunch of spot welds bringing them ever closer together in order to keep the heat and warpage down. Look in your local trader papers, Craigslist, e-bay, etc and try to find a good used Miller, Hobart, or Lincoln only, no chicom crap or HF junk for this one. If at all possible get a 220 version if you are wired for it. I've got a Hobart 187 and love it.
Harbor Freight does have good prices on Hobart Welders.
07-01-2008 04:04 PM
oldschoolrods I'd recommend a Lincoln Flux core/ Mig welder. We have a 110V model at home, used it with flux core for a while, worked ok, lots of spatter as said before. Switched to gas and works great. And for what its worth and this is not a shot at miller, but at my work we fix welders and we see way more miller's than Lincolns, but I've only been there about a month so who knows if this is just a spurt of millers or not.
07-01-2008 02:13 PM
mike6845 Yes, by all means get a MIG welder and a small bottle of C25/75 gas and use 0.023 solid wire. The trick is to not lay down a continous bead but to do a bunch of spot welds bringing them ever closer together in order to keep the heat and warpage down. Look in your local trader papers, Craigslist, e-bay, etc and try to find a good used Miller, Hobart, or Lincoln only, no chicom crap or HF junk for this one. If at all possible get a 220 version if you are wired for it. I've got a Hobart 187 and love it.
07-01-2008 08:50 AM
matt167 don't buy a Harbor Freight Welder... I made the mistake of buying there cheap $100 wire feed welder.. after a few hours of use ( don't use on sheetmetal, it'll burn thru ) the feed wheel wore out.. I called and got a new feeder assembly for it, and put it in. but after that, I never even put the spool of wire back on it. the welder is a giant paperweight anyway
06-30-2008 11:33 PM
Rambo_The_Dog Depends on how much you are going to use it.

I bought a miller 135 (110V) w Argon/C02 bottle out the door for around $700.00 a couple of years ago.

I've used and abused this unit and only replaced the consumables.
06-30-2008 02:20 PM
OneMoreTime Couple of things you can do..One is to learn to use a torch with a triple ought tip..If you wish to get a wire feeder (MIG) then go with a Lincoln..Hobart..Miller.. either the Sp1oo size (110 volt) or the SP175 size (220 volt) models..I have one of those machines and have had it at least 15 years or more and have long since forgotten what I paid for it and it still gives me a good service..does all I need it to do in a restoration shop..Try welders direct dot com for pricing..waay less than 1000 for one of those..

Sam
06-30-2008 02:18 PM
oldred Don't even consider one of the cheap flux core welders (probably what you were looking at for $100) get a MIG welder for body work, a flux core welder is not a MIG. Flux core wire not only is far more likely to burn through but it will leave a rough weld with a lot of spatter which means a lot of grinding to get it smooth. Probably one of the better buys for a low cost MIG is one of the Hobart Handler series machines or maybe one of the little Lincolns if you stay with one of the big brand names but the Italian built Clark is making a very good name for itself also and it is priced right!
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