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superchevy89 04-24-2013 03:36 AM

No idea where to begin
 
Hey everyone joined 3 forums and no one ever replies but who knows ill try again Ive got a 73 vega my father gave to me after he suddenly lost all intrest in. Which seems to be a joke on me with figuring out what to do with the frame since its an h body. So my question is what do I do/need to get the frame and suspension together. Ive never built a car from scratch before just figured it would be nice to get the experience since I love cars and racing. Anyway as the car sits at this moment I have a body frame worthless suspension and tires. Where do I start?

atotalnincompoop 04-24-2013 03:52 AM

i'd go and buy a book on building a race car chassis. i have several of these books and refer to them often when building.

vinniekq2 04-24-2013 06:08 AM

can you identify the parts? take a complete inventory,,,look up a kit replacement and compare what you have with what you want or need,,,look at the instructions for assembley of that kit.

bentwings 04-24-2013 06:25 AM

This is a pretty difficult project to tackle as a newbee. I'd suggest you try and take a look at one at the races. Even if you have to travel a bit it will be worth it to get some idea of the scope of the project.

Take a look at the car. These are subject to sever rust out just about everywhere. This needs to be addressed first.

Even a relatively low powered street rod will need a lot of help in the chassis area.

BOBCRMAN@aol.com 04-24-2013 07:35 AM

I built a couple of Vega projects back in the early eighties. As previously stated. Not a task for a novice.

At the time, most Vega type cars were disposable so it made for an inexpensive project start. But the costs/labor of a V-8 streetable car are large.

Needs custom headers, exhaust, radiator and rear end. Fabbed mounts. Better brakes/suspension all around.

Probably best to sell body as a Drag car project and buy a Mustang, Camaro or G-body something and build from there. Less fab/custom $$$$ mostly bolt on stuff and readily available parts..Lots of support.

superchevy89 04-24-2013 07:52 AM

Ya from what ive seen and heard this isnt gonna be an easy project more or less probabky the real reason the car was given to me but rust wise its pretty much spotless its sat in our garage for the past 12 or so years

59 wagon man 04-24-2013 08:03 AM

may i suggest post a few pics of what you have. where are you at? look on ebay or craigslist for a kit ti drop in a smallblock or a 4.3 v6. does the car have sentimental val e?_

kso 04-24-2013 08:54 AM

Yes, pics would help. What is it you want...talking about the frame, are you looking to do a pro-street or something?

Here's what I would do if you're just looking to do something/anything with it, and I'm assuming it's at-least a hatchback or wagon, not the worthless notchback...and that you're serious enough to see it through.

First research. Lots of people have hot-rodded Vegas back-in-the-day, including guys who were barely old enough to drive at the time and had unsupportive parents owning the driveway. So you can do it too but know what you're getting into.

Build a mild 350, try to use aluminum heads (late '80s Corvette, aftermarket etc) and intake to minimize the load on the body, w/ a TH350 trans for simplicity. Source motor/trans mounts, aftermarket or V8 Monza from CL or somebody at a forum. Get exhaust from same sources, Certain '60s manifold can fit, Monza manifolds are tiny but headers will have ground clearance issues. Next you'll get some experience as you work out all the details required to make it a running car, such as fuel, cooling, driveshaft etc. Figure two weeks full-time, or a few months of Saturdays. By the time you have it so it can take it's first trip around the block, you can say "you have some experience" with cars which may be the best reason to try something like this. Then, take it easy on the throttle 'til you're ready to deal with the rear at which point you can make your "stage II" project be narrowed rear, subframe and sheetmetal, etc. and later go even further if you choose.

But.....

For all that, you're only doing something that's been done a million times already, will have problems with the front "frame" over time, was severely out-of-style once, and what you're left with is not worth much if you try to sell. There are hacked-up old Vegas everywhere that didn't get finished, or got mickey-moused up then thrashed, that people put on CL trying to make them look like they're worth something and they're just not. And, what makes an old guy's eyes light up (such as me, who's 52 and built six V8 Vegas by the time I was 22) may not be right for a guy your age. So anyhow, you gotta know what you really want...no one else can decide that for you.

With all that...my vote's for the Vega, but you see where I'm coming from. In my day such projects were cutting-edge and it was easy to be enthused about them. In 2013, it's kind-of a re-hash I'd do more for nostalgia reasons, like to build a '70s thing.

techinspector1 04-24-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by superchevy89 (Post 1669802)
Hey everyone joined 3 forums and no one ever replies but who knows ill try again Ive got a 73 vega my father gave to me after he suddenly lost all intrest in. Which seems to be a joke on me with figuring out what to do with the frame since its an h body. So my question is what do I do/need to get the frame and suspension together. Ive never built a car from scratch before just figured it would be nice to get the experience since I love cars and racing. Anyway as the car sits at this moment I have a body frame worthless suspension and tires. Where do I start?

Well, I would start by taking an inventory of what you have, like Vinnie suggested. Write down what's there and take lots of pics. Post the pics on here. Nobody can give you useful information until we know what you have to work with. Bob made the point that the car is probably worthless to you and he may be right. You may be better off selling it and getting into another make/model. We won't know until we see what you have.

Quite a lot of what I learned as a young man was hanging out with fellows at the drag strip and with club members who had been there, done that. I also read everything I could get my hands on. I learned early on that money does not grow on trees and that I would need to budget my projects to X dollars a week or X dollars a month in order to get through the whole mess and still pay rent and buy groceries. I remember saving up 50 bucks a week for 10 weeks to buy a pair of Aldan Eagle coil/over shocks for the front of a roadster I was building.

LATECH 04-24-2013 05:09 PM

You could drop a solstice drive train in it. I think it would handle that .
It wouldnt be insanely powerful but can be made to run pretty good. Just a thought.

swvalcon 04-24-2013 05:31 PM

Check my project journal out. Did a vega wagon in the early 90's. Still have it but needs the engine redone. Going to give it to my son now that he's out of the navy if he wants it.

superchevy89 04-24-2013 07:13 PM

Ill post pics tomorrow im looking to build a street rod with atleast 400hp just to start with outof a chevy 350 block

techinspector1 04-24-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by superchevy89 (Post 1670036)
Ill post pics tomorrow im looking to build a street rod with atleast 400hp just to start with outof a chevy 350 block

If you're thinkin' carbureted, I might begin by looking for an L31 block. Here's a list of vehicles to look for.....
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w..._cylinder_head

If you're thinkin' EFI, I might begin lookin' for an LS motor.

vinniekq2 04-24-2013 08:04 PM

cool idea
 
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Originally Posted by LATECH (Post 1670010)
You could drop a solstice drive train in it. I think it would handle that .
It wouldnt be insanely powerful but can be made to run pretty good. Just a thought.

here a fella took a 320 BMW used a Solstice transmission and took an east/west 2.2 cobalt engine,turned it North/south and added a turbo for over 300 HP

oldbogie 04-25-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by superchevy89 (Post 1669802)
Hey everyone joined 3 forums and no one ever replies but who knows ill try again Ive got a 73 vega my father gave to me after he suddenly lost all intrest in. Which seems to be a joke on me with figuring out what to do with the frame since its an h body. So my question is what do I do/need to get the frame and suspension together. Ive never built a car from scratch before just figured it would be nice to get the experience since I love cars and racing. Anyway as the car sits at this moment I have a body frame worthless suspension and tires. Where do I start?

Most everything you need is still out there type V8 Vega and or V8 Monza into your search engine and sit back from the screen.

Bogie


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