NOS or NO - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Engine
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 09:12 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 46
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Arrow NOS or NO

I've got 2 Camaros one is a 76 w/ a 350 and the other is a 69 Z28and the body's in pretty bad condition but the engine looks good. I've had performance carburator, headers, air filter, exhaust, and i brought it down to my friends shop and told him to get it ready to put NOS on it and all he did was put some kind of new hoses on it. Will the Nos really help me that much when im street racing.

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 09:19 AM
Barz51's Avatar
a.k.a. Rusty Shackelford
 

Last journal entry: Another one
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Michigan
Age: 33
Posts: 226
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

If you use over a 100 shot you are going to want to rebuild the lower end. Street racing is dangerous not only to you but to innocent people <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" /> Take it to the track
Cory
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 09:35 AM
lozinit's Avatar
Resident Evil Penguin Wrangler
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL.
Posts: 76
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

For street racing, may I suggest putting around a 500 shot of "naws" on your motor and creating eight new ashtrays.

To answer your question - Yes, NITROUS (NOS is a tradename btw) will help deliver more oxygen to your combustion chambers and produce more power. It will also help destroy the engine faster if you don't know what you are doing. (which I suspect is the case here since you had to ask if it will help you.)

Why are you using nitrous on the street? Take it to the track. Sorry if this seems a little short, but after recently reading about a semi-local accident a mother and two children were involved in because of street racing, I am just a little down on that now. The driver that caused the accident fled the scene, the other street racer wrecked his car and was hauled off in the back of a police car.
(The mother survived, one child had his arm amputated, and the other baby died later at the hospital.)
There is no excuse.

~M
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 12:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 46
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

SCREW THE TRACK.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 12:57 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 93
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

yep, opinions and a$$holes, everybody has one, the trick is knowing when to shut up with yours. thanks all.
-z

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: steppenwolf ]</p>
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 01:08 PM
E.T. divided by $ spent= Speed
 
Last photo:
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYS america's unwiped butt
Age: 35
Posts: 1,858
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Post

Hey deathtoricers Don't be a dick.
I've run on the street when the conditions seemed right,but it ain't safe.Especially when you are doing more than just quick little light to light spurts.To do a little off the light race or something OK.But an all out,all four gears,drag race belongs at the track.
As for Nitrous it can melt pistons,break U-joints etc...I don't like it. If you do decide to use it.From what I know its a high gear only device.There was a guy down here at the local street drags who nitroused off the line he found him self in the back off a police car watching his upsidown car get pulled out of a ditch. Also you'll want a high volume reliable fuel pump.Only use it when the throttle is wide open.Thats what I know of it,which ain't much.

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: 78 monte ]</p>
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 01:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 46
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

Sorry I take responsblity for that but i didn't type it. My brother did but i just let him. I agree with him somewhat but only because the only time i street race is out by the Golf wearhouse at 3am s there is nobody else out there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 01:35 PM
lozinit's Avatar
Resident Evil Penguin Wrangler
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pensacola, FL.
Posts: 76
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

I think he would need to read the little rant I just composed in the dump then. It fits that "screw the track" statement. (As well as yours about doing it @ 3 in the morning with no traffic.) I was going to post it here, but I didn't want anyone to think I was 'soapboxing' it.

~Michael
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 01:46 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Wichita Kansas
Posts: 46
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

I street race on the roads w/ minumal traffic every once in a while but after reading what loznitz wrote I really don't think I'm going to do it anymore. I've decided to quit alll of my street racing accept for out in the country by the golf wearhouse early in the moning. ( we stop all of the races even when we see a car a mile away on a different road). Alsoi think im going to start going to this track i know of. Sorry

-DTR
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 02:52 PM
Member
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 416
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

The entire street racing issue is out of control.Lets face it,the entire purpose of a hot rod is supposedly to race on the back road.Of course the gray haired old geezers with their 32 5 window kit cars with their crate motors in them dont give off that image,and it is all supposed to be a car show thing,but what are we showing?Is it about having the "nicest car",then why not a pluch luxobarge in mint condition with all sorts of convienences?If it is all about looking cool,what constitutes cool?Is a 23 bucket with a tunnel rammed smallblock and 4 speed supposed to wow anybody with luxury?This is a culture issue.I knew that it was taking a turn for the the worse over 10 years ago.I dont know if I was any better back in my day,but there is a big difference between street racing and the current crop of street criminals.When I started out,there were kids hanging around the back highway sipping beers and burning rubber with our fat tires and airshocks Camaros.Occasionally somebody would have a half assed 14 second car with a little nitrous on it.If you spent enuff time hanging aound,you got the lowdown on where the real racing was going on.Not a couple of drunken kids doing donuts and brake stands in a parking lot,I am talking about big money 8 second cars running for bags full of cash on closed off service roads.For every one real spot,there are a dozen poser spots.Of course even in the real spots you run a risk yourself since there is usually no ambulance or saftey crew around,but at one spot in New Jersey,the cops sent an ambulance down to the spot to watch over things.A handful of the racers were cops from other districts and a few firemen.This wasnt a bunch of kids standing around smoking grass and crashing into stuff,it was a serious business.We even have two local cop cars on Video taking off from the starting line together with a flagman between them.We had a few crashes,but nothing serious.Evntually it fizzled out.The reason street racing exist is because these people dont want to race at the track.Most of them want to lock up a race and then go run it,not sit in the lanes until their competitor chickens out.Many of them are just plain silly.I watched a race between a full size Benz and a kid on foot at one of the spots.The kid on foot had to run 100 feet on the shoulder of the road,while te benz had to go the entire 1/4 mile,they did this for over $10,000.The kid on foot won.Of course he was stupid for being on the side of the road next to a 100+mph car,but that was his own stupidity.I have brought my race car out and ran it against 18 second junkers.I gave one guy a 1000 foot headstart,and then cleaned his clock,you dont see that down at the track.Bracket racing is similar,but who wants to think about seconds and time,it is all about confusing your competitor out of money.I know that nothing is safer then the track,but I do it at my own risk.I wont race on a road that has any intersections within 1 mile of the racecourse,or that doesnt have a center median between the race and oncoming traffic.I also wont run in a place where there are people standing on the roadside past about 100 feet from the starting line.All that fast and furious stuff is the bulk of the street racing problem.The cops never broke our stones when were were just down the spot to race.Guys who got stupid and drove thru the local streets like maniacs would usually end up bailing their car out of the pound the next day,but to the serious guys who rolled up with their cars on trailers,or towbars,and drove from the hangout to the race spot in a civilized fashion,then did their burnout and got the race off were never bothered.I dont care to stand around the side of the road at 3 am anymore,so I havent street raced in a few years,but if the itch were to strike,I might just show up at the spot to show some of the rookies how it is done.

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: Super Streeter ]</p>
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 07:19 PM
Grumpy
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: D.C.
Posts: 1,447
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

Hmmm NOS on an engine with cast pistons and a stock block, ..... could we say hole in piston! maybe crack, head come off. Or maybe run over a few peds :p sounds like carmageddon to me

Personaly never run NOS unless you can afford to go through engines like TP. Or unless you have the heads coated in ceramic, and the top of the pistons, then have all the NOS you want, the heat transfers to the walls that way and not into the fagile aluminum pistons.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 08:45 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 93
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

we've already been through the ceramic coating issue... it doesn't do much, and certainly doesn't let you run all the NOS you want. the only thing that'll do that is a better bottom end.... all it is is $, after all.
-z-
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 12-04-2002, 09:21 PM
bonuts's Avatar
Got Ouzo for touzo
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: C-eh N-eh D-eh
Age: 33
Posts: 416
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Post

I think your pushin' it "lozinit", like my dad used to say there's a difference between scratchin' your ***** and terrin' it all to hell. Every time someone brings up street racing you can't come up with this. SOME people are responsible and a track isn't available my situation the nearest drag track is 4 hours away, so to the back roads you go. I DO NOT agree with the new age street racing from one end of a city to the other. However, I myself sometimes go play in my truck, get over it. I'm sure most "hotrodders" do. I myself won't race if the other person or myself have passengers. Yes your correct on streets with other cars it is not safe, people know that, but still continue to do it and they always will. BTW why all the smart *** replies, people have questions answer them nicely.


Bonuts
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2002, 12:07 AM
E.T. divided by $ spent= Speed
 
Last photo:
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NYS america's unwiped butt
Age: 35
Posts: 1,858
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Post

As for street racing,I haven't gone to the little get together in years.Bunch off dangerous @ssholes.I watched one moron on a bike drive straight into a passing car.
But little light to light confrontations,I'll have a go.I usually never get past half way through second gear,I don't like high speeds.Its all in fun.But like I said those full bore high speed runs are for the track or road were there is no chance of traffic.Evan the backroad thing don't appeal to me,something about deer and 100mph don't click well w/ me.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 12-05-2002, 03:19 AM
Kevin45's Avatar
Just one of the guys
 

Last journal entry: Garage Toys
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Urbana, Ohio
Age: 58
Posts: 3,060
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts
Post

[quote]The entire street racing issue is out of control.Lets face it,the entire purpose of a hot rod is supposedly to race on the back road.Of course the gray haired old geezers with their 32 5 window kit cars with their crate motors in them dont give off that image,and it is all supposed to be a car show thing,but what are we showing?Is it about having the "nicest car",then why not a pluch luxobarge in mint condition with all sorts of convienences?If it is all about looking cool,what constitutes cool?<hr></blockquote> [quote] .I wont race on a road that has any intersections within 1 mile of the racecourse,or that doesnt have a center median between the race and oncoming traffic.I also wont run in a place where there are people standing on the roadside past about 100 feet from the starting line.<hr></blockquote>

You might be in control but the other guy might not. I've been there done that and it's not worth it. For every good story you may have there are hundreds of bad stories. I've done the light to light racing, racing for money, racing for titles, back road racing, etc. I've seen buddies killed by racing. It only takes one time, one mistake!!

06/03/02 NEW ORLEANS Bystanders hurt at drag race Bystanders watching an illegal drag race late Sunday in eastern New Orleans were injured when they were hit by at least one of the cars that lost control during the race, the New Orleans Police Department said. Authorities said at least eight people were injured, two critically. The injuries were reported shortly before 11 p.m. near Old Gentilly Road and Michoud Boulevard near Lockheed Martin Space Systems Co.'s Michoud Assembly Facility , authorities said. No more information was available late Sunday.

WARREN-- A driver injured in a drag race that turned deadly is expected to face charges Monday.

The drivers in a red Honda Civic and gold Honda Accord were drag racing down Schoenherr, near Eight Mile Road, about 5 p.m. Sunday when a Cadillac carrying a family came into their paths, Local 4 reported.

Witness Ron Koebler said that the Honda Civic and Honda Accord were racing at about 100 mph when the Cadillac pulled out. He said that the Honda Civic hit the Cadillac and spun it around into the Honda Accord, and the Honda Accord struck a telephone pole.

The 19-year-old man who was driving the Honda Accord was pronounced dead at the scene. Occupants of the other cars were taken to the hospital, including a 5-year-old child.

Neighbors said that they have seen the driver of the Honda Civic drag race before. Police plan to arrest him when he is released from the hospital, Local 4 reported.


A red Mustang convertible lies crumpled on Bridgeford Drive after it crashed into the mulberry tree at back left, injuring a Natomas High School student who was a passenger in the car. Police say two cars were racing side-by-side and investigators are looking for the second car, believed to be a white, possibly modified 1990s model Ford Tempo or Contour.
Sacramento Bee/Chris Crewell

An after-school street race severely injured a 16-year-old Natomas High School student who was a passenger in a red Mustang convertible that plowed into a tree at more than 70 mph, police said.

The crash occurred shortly before 3 p.m. Wednesday and left neighbors along Bridgeford Drive in South Natomas shaking their heads at the senseless destruction.

The name of the female student who was taken by ambulance to UC Davis Medical Center was not immediately available.

The driver of the Mustang was also taken to the same hospital, but with minor injuries. Sacramento Police Lt. James Maccoun said Ramon L. Martinez, 19, of Sacramento would be arrested on suspicion of reckless driving and street racing resulting in an injury after he was examined and treated.

Police also were searching for a white car, possibly a modified 1990s model white Ford Tempo or Contour, that was reportedly racing side-by-side with the late-model Mustang when the crash occurred.

The sound of the car hitting her mulberry tree is one that Dorothy Turner said she will never forget.

"It was a crash so loud, I thought a car was coming through my house," she said. "If the tree hadn't been there, it probably would have."

Turner rushed to the door and peered outside. What she saw left her and other neighbors speechless.

The Mustang was torn down the middle of the hood as though it were made of paper. Pieces of the car were strewn across Turner's front yard and deep grooves were cut in the lawn and flowerbed.

Imbedded in a groove at the base of the mulberry tree was the passenger-side seat belt of the car.

"It looks like she broke right through it," said Maccoun of the seat belt. He added that a complete investigation of the crash will be conducted.

Maccoun said the girl was ejected from the car on impact. Turner saw the girl's crumpled form lying in the street with Martinez trying to help her. Turner gave him a blanket to cover her.

Turner said street racing and speeding have long been a problem on her street.

"Now that it's summertime, things will be getting worse," Turner said. "They are always racing around here, especially at night. We hear them spinning doughnuts in the intersections."

Neighbors said between Pebblewood Drive, where the street race reportedly started, and San Juan Road there are three day-care homes filled with young children. Several teenage children were already home from school, playing in their yards.

William Dixon, 13, was in a yard three houses down the street when he heard the crash.

"I just heard a really big bang while I was playing," he said. "I started to walk home and that's when I saw what had happened."


I've shown three stories where street racing is no good. Show me three stories that are of a positive nature.

Kevin
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Engine posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.