Nova or lemans for Christmas? - Page 2 - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Hotrodding Basics
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2013, 05:32 PM
LATECH's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 

Last journal entry: Motor - vator
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,218
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 203
Thanked 258 Times in 240 Posts
This is my first car. A long time ago. I put on some bondo, my brother painted it(real fast like) did a valve job, fixed the brakes....etc.
Sure it aint perfect, but it was cool, ran good and I wish I still had it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Old Pics 018.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	1.62 MB
ID:	101370  

    Advertisement
__________________
Fact is stranger than Fiction
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 11-27-2013, 06:21 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Sounds like what I want to do. Fix what needs to be fixed and paint. Only difference is I want to change the drivetrain. So I have one person who agrees.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 09:00 AM
LATECH's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 

Last journal entry: Motor - vator
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,218
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 203
Thanked 258 Times in 240 Posts
I would get what you got running first and get it running well. Work out the bugs. Then find another engine to build like a 400 and stroke it. That way it is a weekend swap instead of being torn apart for ever and dying somewhere in the backyard.
Poncho motors are easy to swap and it doesn't take long. But building a good one wont happen in a few hours.
Get your ride dolled up and driveable. Then work on the horsepower thing. Besides the 350 2 barrel will be OK on fuel and the power will surprise you. Poncho motors are all the same external dimensions from 326 to 455.So if you put dual exhaust on the 350, it will bolt right up to a 455 or 400 whatever. Kinda nice huh?
Your not gonna make a first car an absolute trailer queen show car, nor would you want to. Build it... have fun... learn some stuff.Your young ...have some fun with it.
__________________
Fact is stranger than Fiction
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 09:57 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
That would work. So I'd just put the engine at the bottom of my list.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 10:41 AM
raidmagic's Avatar
Member
 

Last journal entry: electric fans
Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: tampa
Age: 41
Posts: 258
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
I'm not real sure why you are so hung up on a drivetrain swap. With more power comes more problems. It looks like it could be a fun car. Lots to fix up and fun to cruise. I would buy it fix up the body issues maybe put a cam and 4 barrel on it and call it good. If you did everything on your wish list AND had 0 labor costs then your 10,000 dollar number is possible. As soon as you start paying to get things done the cost goes up. Also you're dreaming if you think you can get $3000 for the current drivetrain. There is a reason they are selling the car for $1000.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 10:51 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Haha that's a great point. I mean if I got it running.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 11:22 AM
LATECH's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 

Last journal entry: Motor - vator
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,218
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 203
Thanked 258 Times in 240 Posts
I have a turbo 350 in my 64 . Works real good. Took a pounding this summer. Still works fine.
That Lemans you have is just fine with what it has. If you want to do anything , just make it whole again.Then like I said...go from there.
LSD carriers are nice, but not needed for a small amount of horsepower.They are also pretty reasonable.The 8.2 rear in that car will be fine until you get to 400 or more horses and a stall converter.$$$$$$$$
__________________
Fact is stranger than Fiction
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 11:27 AM
LATECH's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 

Last journal entry: Motor - vator
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,218
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 203
Thanked 258 Times in 240 Posts
After you get it running you may want to do an upgrade like this:

19603 010 Eaton Posi Fits GM 8 2" 10 Bolt 3 08 Up Ratios 28 Spline '64 '72 Car | eBay
__________________
Fact is stranger than Fiction
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 11:29 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I could turbocharge it. That's cheap enough.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 02:02 PM
LATECH's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 

Last journal entry: Motor - vator
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
Posts: 5,218
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 203
Thanked 258 Times in 240 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpenrose View Post
I could turbocharge it. That's cheap enough.
Keep it simple man, or as stated before, it will rust into the dirt in the backyard when you lose interest.
Start with :
1 : The Brakes. A thorough inspection and assessment. Repair as necessary
2:the suspension.same as above
3: new wheels and tires are understandable at this point
Lights: all must work
Glass: all must be present, and at least front glass needs to roll up and down
Then go on to the engine and trans, assess and repair as necessary to get it to function as intended, then work on upgrades.
Then go on to make it pretty.
__________________
Fact is stranger than Fiction
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 02:44 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Remember this will be my daily driver and I will drive A LOT. I will probably head down the shore at least 3 times a month which is an hour and 20 minute ride. So the engine has to run perfectly and I guess I definetely should lower it and get good suspension? So I don't hit a tree from spinning out or something. I mainly just NEED good handling. Brakes don't have to be special. I mean I drive now and I'm pretty good and I'll be responsible when on the road. But itd be pretty darn hard not to show off to friends. So yeah handling is most important. Then looks, then speed. I'd prefer to have all
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 03:51 PM
raidmagic's Avatar
Member
 

Last journal entry: electric fans
Last photo:
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: tampa
Age: 41
Posts: 258
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by cpenrose View Post
I could turbocharge it. That's cheap enough.
Anyone who has ever uttered those words has never turbocharged an engine. Just because you see some crappy ebay turbo for $150 doesn't mean anything. You are looking at 3 to 5K to build a good quality turbo set up that will provide you the dependability you are asking for in a car.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The Following User Says Thank You to raidmagic For This Useful Post:
LATECH (11-28-2013)
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I guess no turbo then.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 07:35 PM
Member
 
Last wiki edit: Ford axle ratio codes
Last journal entry: Rear Suspension
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Prattsville
Posts: 6,363
Wiki Edits: 31

Thanks: 2
Thanked 55 Times in 51 Posts
An old vehicle in the generation you are looking in is going to drive vastly different than anything you are used to. If it has Disc brakes in the front, it will stop adequately just like a modern car, but if it has drums in the front, you will have to be careful and aware of brake fade and be able to keep the tires from locking in a panic stop or overheating while descending a hill... Lowering the car will often have adverse effects on the handling as it changes the ride height and engineered optimal suspension geometry and things like roll center. The steering in a car from the late 60's early 70's is still going to feel loose, and slow compared to a modern R&P steering, and the suspension's are not as responsive either...

Decent first car, but lower your price expectations and keep it within your means. You can get a car like that on the road and respectable for under $5k.. Focus another $2-5k on a nice daily driver.. You may think that old car will be a great daily driver but if you plan on highway trips, I doubt you could get it over 18 MPG driving like a grandma and you probably could not afford the gas to put in it
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 11-28-2013, 07:43 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 68
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 2
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
So pro-touring cars aren't good drivers? I figured if it were lowered it wouldn't roll so much. And I will have another driver. My brother is leaving his durango for a civic for college, then my dad is replacing the civic with something else like a fusion or audi something. So basically I will be left to trade the durango for what I want which would be a jeep. That was a lot sorry. That's free so I'll be good. But I'd like to focus any money on this. And I'd like to mainly drive it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Hotrodding Basics posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Christmas Blowout,Voting Starts Now, Hotrodders Art Contest Christmas Theme 2010 Only Racing Hot Rod Art 15 01-03-2011 07:35 PM
66 Lemans ap0001 Hotrodding Basics 15 02-04-2009 08:23 AM
66 Lemans ap0001 Engine 10 01-16-2009 11:08 AM
'64 LeMans ibdc Introduce Yourself 1 12-20-2008 07:55 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.