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Old 02-28-2013, 08:43 PM
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nut fell in the intake

i was driving home tonight and the not on my air cleaner fell into the carburetor and into the intake. Is it possible that its just on the out side of the valve? i dont think the valve opens enough for the nut to get into the combustion chamber does it?
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:00 PM
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might still be inside the intake.you would know if it went through the engine
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:09 PM
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thank you vinnie that puts my mind at ease. lol. but i still wonder.... its making a knockin noise when it runs. could the nut just be bouncing off the back of the valve?
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:28 PM
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open the carb wot and with a magnet go fishing..
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open the carb wot and with a magnet go fishing..
yep that would be my advice as well. prolly bouncin neer the valve like you origionally posted. it probably wont fit through.
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If it did get through, pull the spark plugs and again go fishing with a magnet through the plug hole.
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I think the logical conclusion beyond getting the nut out is how much damage??. A step to take before tearing it down is to scope it,hell scope it to find where the nut is too!!!.

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Take the carb off and see if you can get it....If you cant, off comes the intake....Better safe than sorry

BTW, if you were driving, how do you know it fell down the carb?....Also, if the air cleaner was on, how could it fall down there?
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Pull the carb. If you have an aluminum intake; tie a magnet on a piece of cotton string and fish for it.
If its iron (intake) you'll have to remove it regardless.
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Pull the carb. If you have an aluminum intake; tie a magnet on a piece of cotton string and fish for it.
If its iron (intake) you'll have to remove it regardless.
those magnets on the spring hangles do ok even in a iron intake.. I'd try that before I pulled..
at a shop I used to work at (mopar dealer) the tech would put the plug wires on in an odd order hold the carb wot and spin the engine.. the backfire would pitch the nut/socket/etc out the engine..
that goes under don't try this at home.. but flat rate anything goes..
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Take the carb off and see if you can get it....If you cant, off comes the intake....Better safe than sorry

BTW, if you were driving, how do you know it fell down the carb?....Also, if the air cleaner was on, how could it fall down there?
I have to agree. How could this happen ?


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Its better to park somewhere when you lose a nut
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If you can hear it , it is more than likely a bad thing. Good luck!
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T how do you know it fell down the carb?
My thoughts too.

If you do need to go fishing for it you can make a pretty good retrieval tool out of some silicone tubing, a small magnet, and some stiff wire. They sell this kind of tubing in hobby shops - folks use it for fuel lines on R/C planes and cars and such. Sometimes these shops also sell small and powerful magnets that are shaped and sized like little BBs. These work really well.

You can stretch the tubing as a tight fit around the magnet so that only a small portion of it remains unshrouded by the silicone. This keeps the magnet from sticking too tightly to any iron, etc. it might encounter and also makes it harder for the magnet to dislodge from your tool.

Cut the tubing to an appropriate length and then slip some stiff steel wire down inside it until it magnetically connects with the back of the magnet. For short retrievers a big paper clip works well but for longer ones an old coat hanger. In a pinch aluminum wire or something non-magnetic can work, though you lose the safety factor of its attraction to the backside of the magnet.

Now you have a pliable tool that you can steer down into various engine passages and to retrieve magnetic parts. It works well for stuff dropped into water jackets, etc.

Good luck!
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IF it did make it into the motor,, It would have to get pass the valves, If the valve happens to catch it.. There is a chance it will hold the valve open and if so, the piston will hit the valve,, The other thing that could happen is, If the nut makes it pass the valve then it will be jumping on top of the piston. Seen this happen to a good friend of mine,, He was changing his plug's and doing a tune up on his honda... Well once he was all done and started it,, He said it locked up on him,, He then called me and said I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPEN !!!!

So I went over and looked at it,, He said I only lost one nut going back together with it..

Well I found a piece of nut stuck between the valve and the other piece did a few jump's on top of the piston,, And let me say this.. It did a number on top that piston... Good luck,, Hope you find it..
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