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Old 02-06-2006, 06:41 AM
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my car was parked near my home this week end and a cars engine blew up next to my car and threw oil all over the paint, alot of oil, i spend one hour just getting the wind shield cleaned, what will i do or use to clean the oil off the paint, please reply ASAP before it rains................Thank you

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my car was parked near my home this week end and a cars engine blew up next to my car and threw oil all over the paint, alot of oil, i spend one hour just getting the wind shield cleaned, what will i do or use to clean the oil off the paint, please reply ASAP before it rains................Thank you
The answer is easy. Soap and water.

Use car-wash soap in a bucket of water with a sponge. Mix it a little stronger than recommended to cut that oil. Repeat if necessary. Then rinse with a hose and dry it off.
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If you need something stronger, use liquid dish detergent, like
Joy or Dawn.
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dawn dish soap.
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...a cars engine blew up next to my car and threw oil all over the paint...
OK, a day has passed and no one has asked the $64,000 question: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MOTOR? Sounds like a story!

Russ
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ok,, how did oil get on your car, what happen
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If you need something stronger, use liquid dish detergent, like
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dawn dish soap.
i'd make a nodd toward the car wash soap rather than the dish soaps. the reason is the dish soap is designed to strip the oils. under the circumstances this would sound like a good thing, but it may also strip the oils in the paint and cause premature degragation of the paint. ever notice the older folks that wash their cars with dish soap? the car's paint starts to turn chalky after some time because the natural oils in the paint are stripped, and not replaced with a good waxing. once the oils are stripped from the paint, they can't be put back in. waxing is just covering the problem. i am still trying to revitalize my wife's car's paint(second hand car) that was previously owned by an older couple.

car wash on the other hand has some grease cutting ability, but it is formulated to not harm the paint.
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Ther are no "oils" in paint.
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Ther are no "oils" in paint.
Not in automotive paints anyway.
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hmm... it made sense to me when a painter was telling me that... then again maybe it was to sell the wax... but why does the paint turn chalky and rub off on your hands? my wife's car was all like that. i had to buff the crap out of it to make it stop. then using some good wax to get the paint to come back around.
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I've been told the reason not to use dish soap is that is too harsh and removes all traces of any wax or other protectants. So if you use dish soap only, your paint is perfectly bare and can oxidize quickly. But I'd think that if you waxed well afterwards you wouldn't have any issues.
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This is an old arguement as old as dirt, to wax or not to wax.
Once you loose the top film on paint and expose the pigments to the elements
it's going to oxidise. Back when most paint was not clear coated it was
a lot quicker to happen. With urethane clearcoats there's a lot more
protection with a more durable paint.
I had a car I cleared and not waxed for 3 years, I washed it only with
dish detergent soap. It never lost it's shine and looked as good 3 yrs
later. It stayed outside always. Not that I don't believe in waxing,
I do. I think it does protect the paint, and stays cleaner easier.
But the point is, even with a harsh detergent like Joy or Dawn a urethane
clearcoat will last longer than most people own their cars.
It's that good.
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To answer the original Question
Dawn dish detergent
later rinse repeat then a heavy coat of cleaner wax then a tough top coat of Teflon wax!


Loosing the top layer is a myth! You loose all of it !

once the paint has "flashed" & cured Its all pigment.

Used to be paints were mostly solvent .
you have 3 parts to paint, pigment /solvent /resin

pigment = color
solvent = to get it from point A to B & then go away
Resin = hold it together& protect it {keep it together}

if it get too thin your at the primer or beyond

Automotive paint is approximately the thickness of note book paper

& the modern paint is water based {used in the factories}


Ive been Detailing Cars ,Boats, Yachts, Motor Cycles. for over 2 decades,@ this point I can make RUST shine & bead water

The key to maintaining "painted Surfaces" is to keep them clean & protected from dirt/abrasives , UV rays ,Caustic stuff like salt & solvents that can breakdown the paints finish.

A good thick coat of wax gives a extra layer of protection like wearing work gloves

To much wax is just as bad as NO wax Paint is porous & must breath.


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To much wax is just as bad as NO wax. Paint is porous & must breath.


R
Rob,

I agree with everthing you said except the last point is something I've never heard before. Could you explain why paint "must breath" and why do you say "paint is porous"?
I always thought of paint as a impervious layer.

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well I'm pretty sure I can back this up to a point

Have you ever gotten a paint that dose not want to clean up with out heavy abrasive measures? like compound on a wheel[which is everyone answer] rolleyes: {I know different}

Like my Hualmark trailer gets so dirty that good old soap & water wont clean it.

Maybe its just micro dirt particles that typical detergents won't clean?
I guessing you know something I don't.

Plus I'm going on the Bi Annual Detailing Rule .

Also I been told by some old timers I worked for that too much detailing will make the paint check from too much sealant.

One Guy I worked for Timmy said & this is what sold me that 2 brothers got 2 cars same time one polished & waxed the $#it out his & the other didn't. The one that over waxed the paint checked .

So ....

thats my story

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