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Old 11-07-2005, 09:20 PM
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OLDS 442 w-30 help !!

Ive run across a guy selling a very nicely restored 1972 olds 442 w-30 . It has all of the correct options, and freshly rebuilt (balanced and blue printed with some performance mods) 455 stuck to turbo 400. his asking price is on the low side ( by about 5-10k at least)----- i ran the vin and instead of the "x" engine code that would mean it had the w-30 pkg, it had an "h"......350 2 bbl from the factory---which means - to me anyway, its a clone. To buy or not to buy......not really in the market for a $10k fake, but man its sweet !! someone spent a lot of $$ to fake this one, it has the steel backed , fiberglass optional - functional "ram air" hood , the red plastic fender liners, the w-30 and 442 badges- the sway bars, etc.----------opinions ?? will it ever make any money at 9-10K purchase? dont know what kind of market there is for clones like this.

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Check out the Barrett-Jackson auctions...I think you can probably check out the results from previous auctions online...if not they're in this mag by Hemmings...I think the mag is called Musclecar Review or something...anyway, it seems right now at these auctions cars are going for an astounding amount of cash...judging by these auctions the car is worth it. But keep in mind that they can only skyrocket for so long...so if you're looking to make a profit, it might not be the way to go. For a clone, even if it's a spot on match, 10 to 15k is probably all your going to get...20 tops.
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Clone?

You say SOMEONE spent alot of money. I take it the current owner didnt do the resto, does he know its not a real 442? Maybe he bought it, thinking it real, and recently found its a clone. Now the owner is dumping it.
ANYWAY......... my personal opinion here...... 10K for a completely rebuilt car from that era is a deal. Buy it, enjoy it for 2-3 yrs., and sell it for what you bought it for.
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You say SOMEONE spent alot of money. I take it the current owner didnt do the resto, does he know its not a real 442? Maybe he bought it, thinking it real, and recently found its a clone. Now the owner is dumping it.
ANYWAY......... my personal opinion here...... 10K for a completely rebuilt car from that era is a deal. Buy it, enjoy it for 2-3 yrs., and sell it for what you bought it for.
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Ive run across a guy selling a very nicely restored 1972 olds 442 w-30 . It has all of the correct options, and freshly rebuilt (balanced and blue printed with some performance mods) 455 stuck to turbo 400. his asking price is on the low side ( by about 5-10k at least)----- i ran the vin and instead of the "x" engine code that would mean it had the w-30 pkg, it had an "h"......350 2 bbl from the factory---which means - to me anyway, its a clone. To buy or not to buy......not really in the market for a $10k fake, but man its sweet !! someone spent a lot of $$ to fake this one, it has the steel backed , fiberglass optional - functional "ram air" hood , the red plastic fender liners, the w-30 and 442 badges- the sway bars, etc.----------opinions ?? will it ever make any money at 9-10K purchase? dont know what kind of market there is for clones like this.
Heck, If you like it buy it and have fun with it..... If you don't ...... please let me know I am only 90 miles from you... I'd like to have it...

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did some research and spoke the guy who sold it to the guy ive been talkin' to. He sold it on ebay in may-05, has prof rebuilt 455, trans,rearend w/ posi-3.55, all new suspension, master-cyl, steering pump, etc, etc----advsd was going to "pro- street" race it, he sold me on it !! I drove 250 miles with a car hauler thru the arkansas mountains, and when the guy ( john shook - owner of houston gun and pawn ------that should have been a red flag ) the engine looked like it had 150,00 miles on it-not 500. all of the "good stuff" was gone. I knew he had another 442 convertible that was "almost finished". It was immediately apparent that he had taken all of the rebuilt, and new parts from this vehicle and swapped them with his older, and not so new , parts from his 442 that he wasnt selling. I knew he bought the car for 13,500 on ebay in may, and now selling for 10k ?? that explained it. He is trying to recoop' he money, or essentially buy 10k worth of "good stuff " for his keeper, and only be out of pocket 3500 for it. It was a beautiful car, and may be still worth the money, but knowing what I know, or what I had expected, I couldnt buy it......Thanks for the replies my friends !!
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