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Old 11-01-2003, 06:15 PM
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Question "Original" T frame

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Has anyone used an "original" T frame for a T-bucket? I have one that has been boxed and gussetted and is in great shape. I plan on using a buggy sprung rear ford 9 inch and spring behind T-bucket front end (Speedway Motors). People have told me to NEVER use an original frame. Being I'm on a tight budget, for now, it's all I got. I know someone must have used one before. Any thoughts/ help greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-01-2003, 07:24 PM
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I would never use a original T frame.
It is at least 75 years old........
The metal is thin and not as good as the same size metal today.
It was designed for LESS THAN 40 Horsepower......

T frames are cheap to buy new.
They are made from New box tubing

Save your money and buy one........

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I agree. You can probably sell the stock frame to a restorer and offset the cost of a new one. A small price to pay for the added safety factor.

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Old 11-02-2003, 06:00 PM
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Model T frames bent and twisted when new with the very limited HP that they had. After 75 years, it is like rubber. If you don't have the cash to buy one, get some square tubing and make one. You'll be glad you did.
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Old 11-02-2003, 11:14 PM
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As my granddad used to say "Use your head for something besides a hatrack, son!"

It's just not smart to use a stock T frame under a modern hotrod.
It's so cheap to buy the tubing and even pay a welder to put it together for you after you've cut it to size.
I didn't say you couldn't, I didn't say it hasn't been done before, I didn't say anything but...."It just isn't smart!"
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t-frame

Thanks for the input. Just got back from Turner Steel. $58.00 for 24' of 1 1/2 x 3 rec. tubing. I don't know why I didn't fig. this out before I've got the Total Perf. T- manual with all the specs. Now, no worries.
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Old 11-03-2003, 07:27 PM
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Sometimes we just overlook the obvious.
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Henry's smart

With all due respect, Henry ford was a pioneer in metallurgy and the model T
was full of very high quality steel. It may have been designed for a 40HP engine
that probably weighed 400lbs! and it was also designed before paved roads. If you have ever seen what roads looked like it the 1910-1920 era, it was more like a motocross course than a road!. people beat the living crap out of these cars and they took it. I don't see why you feel so much safer on a garage welded frame of 1-1/2 x 3 tubing which is the same size as the T's C-frame anyway! I don't think it is ridiculous to use the original frame, It's friggin' COOL!

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With all due respect, Henry ford was a pioneer in metallurgy and the model T
was full of very high quality steel. It may have been designed for a 40HP engine
that probably weighed 400lbs! and it was also designed before paved roads. If you have ever seen what roads looked like it the 1910-1920 era, it was more like a motocross course than a road!. people beat the living crap out of these cars and they took it. I don't see why you feel so much safer on a garage welded frame of 1-1/2 x 3 tubing which is the same size as the T's C-frame anyway! I don't think it is ridiculous to use the original frame, It's friggin' COOL!

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This thread is 8 years old, plus you would be talking to the wall trying to tell us how good a model T frame was built. A new one is safer, stronger and just makes more sense.

How many roads have you seen from 1910 to the 1920's. And which do you think is stronger, something with 3 sides or something with 4 sides. One thing is good, you read a lot.

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Well I guess I'm old school,
I'm going to do it, I want my build to be as much original iron as possible.
I found the thread on a search and now that I read all the naysayers out there it makes me want to use the original frame even more! don't worry, I'll re-enforce it and make it stronger. I'm trying to find out how to re-enforce it from some old-school rodder/racer out there.

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Well I guess I'm old school,
I'm going to do it, I want my build to be as much original iron as possible.
I found the thread on a search and now that I read all the naysayers out there it makes me want to use the original frame even more! don't worry, I'll re-enforce it and make it stronger. I'm trying to find out how to re-enforce it from some old-school rodder/racer out there.

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Well I have been building Hot Rods since the 50', my first car was a 1927 "T" coupe. I put a model "A" frame under it. Now remember in 1955 a 1927 "T" frame was only 25 years old. Now you are talking 84 years old, I don't care how much you beef it up it's still an 84 year old frame. If you want to have a "T" frame buy a new one. There is a point where old school stops and safety begins.

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Way to easy to just build a new one.... Plus you can build it in a way that most people won't even know the difference.... Why take chance's when you don't have to....But everyone can do it the way ''THEY'' think it should be.....
That's the great thing about Hot rodding.... NO RULES !!!!!

But sometimes down the road you will Say... I wish I would have done this or that...

Most of us here, Have been down that road more then once..
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