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Old 07-06-2013, 03:11 PM
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This oughta be interesting.....

I have had several folks - including on here, "challenge" me to try having a car which is actually painted and with an interior.

Typical is "Bob" (35 Terraplane) who said "Why not try it - you might find you like it'

Well - it looks like I will be taking one of my projects to a builder who habitually winds up in the Cobo Hall "Great 8"

I have NO idea how long it will take, or what it will cost right now as he has not yet seen it, so we cannot even begin to discuss those details, but he has agreed to take it on.

What will be interesting is: "THEN what will I do with the thing?"

Selling it will not likely be an option as I'd guess that it will cost between 60,000 to 100,000 (I am NOT gonna go for a Ridler contender!) and likely could only be subsequently sold in the $25,000 range. Selling it would force me to admit that I just lost a ton of $$$$ on it, and would reveal just HOW MUCH I lost! I'd rather not know THAT!

I strongly suspect that I will have zero interest in actually DRIVING it.

I sorta suspect that I will totally lose interest in it when it's done and just park it back in the back yard where it is now, to let the sun, wind, dust, mice and etc play with it some more.

Maybe I'll park it under shelter in the shop

I'll probably enter a few shows with it for a year or so - preferably "no-trophy" type shows, but I despise "trailer queens" so I suspect I'll despise this car, too.

Right now it has been sitting in the yard for 7 years. It was "mint" when I got it, with new paint and new interior, needing only wiring and brakes to be "done". As a central interior California car all its life it had zero rust.

Well now, after 7 years of sitting in the yard, (along with my '28 Model A, my '56 F100, my '37 Dodge, my '80 GMC, my '76 Poncho, etc) the paint has mostly crazed and peeled off and there are mice families living in it. I bought a wring harness and got most of the parts for the brakes when I got the car, and piled those "required parts" inside it.

When I got it, I was starting to build my shop, so I had no place to put it under shelter. (Maybe this year I'll actually get the shop done enough to put some of my cars in it?)

This oughta be interesting......

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Old 07-06-2013, 03:30 PM
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i guess time will tell, but your not telling us what you are paying someone to build. HAHA
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i guess time will tell, but your not telling us what you are paying someone to build. HAHA
It's my '65 "Henway" - a Volvo 1800S that now has a 1987 Camaro 2.8 L V6 and matching auomatic in it, Fuel Injection system has been removed and junked, and Edelbrock intake and with teeny little Holley 4 bbl carb installed instead. It now has home-made headers on it and a home-made exhaust that sounds good with MG repro mufflers.

MII front end is in, and I am still looking for an IRS that I like (and which will look stock)

The old sound system has been removed (None will be installed)

Gotta put pwr windows and locks in it and add air cond, add pwr mirrors and pwr seats, tilt wheel and cruise control. It will be stock ride height (this is NOT negotiable!)

I have NO idea what color it may be. My usual practice is not to paint a car at all - whatever is on it when I get it can stay there - and my usual preference is that there is no need for it to be smoothed out - wavy/bumpy is OK with me if that's the way I got it.. Bumpers need not be re-chromed - scratched and peeling is OK with me.

So you see this will be a whole new experience. I've never in my life had a car that is all one color or had "good" chrome or a finished interior.

Heck - I never even wash daily drivers - the Lexus LS has never been vacuumed or washed, nor has my other DD- a 2006 Silverado 3500. Prior to my retirement I drove leased "company cars" which only ever got washed or vacuumed on the way back to the dealer at lease return time. My personal view is that people who get all hung up on appearance as opposed to substance are very very insecure about their own self-worth.
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Why in the world would you even bother having this project built ?? You even stated that you would end up parking it after a year or so.

This doesn't make sense to me. It seems that you could find a better way to use the money.

I must be missing something. This is STRANGE !!



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think he was being facetious
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I gotta tell you I just don't understand. Other than keeping someone employed your project isn't making sense to me. What's your motivation for this endeavor? A deep passion for Volvo's or early Alzheimer's? Ain't none of my business but I sure don't see any enthusiasm in this project.

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Old 07-07-2013, 12:04 PM
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I guess it's a joke? I don't know. insert confused smilie.

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Not a joke.

I'm actually coming out of retirement (going back to work) to fund the project

I have never understood the idea of cars that are are "perfect" in terms of body work and paint and interior and fit and finish, but I have never owned one. So - gonna see how I react to owning one. Anything I have owned has been mechanically re-done and that's where I stop. To me "appearance" is just not worth spending a penny or a minute on. As I said before - I never even wash any of my cars.

My '57 Chev got parked in 2003 - it was just not any fun any more. It is actually in the garage - but has become a horizontal storage platform with things piled on top of it and inside it. It has never been "perfect" either. My buddies say it is the friendliest car around - always waving at everyone. (it does not have even one ounce of bondo in it) It still has its vintage 1957 upholstery - with rips & tears and J C Whitney $25.00 seatcovers over the damage. Weatherstrip is mostly missing and hood doesn't fit worth a &*#^%. It is a 4 dr hardtop - but back doors never can be relied on to open or close properly. and none of the windows go up & down very well.

So far as I know, it still runs and should still run in the mid 13's, as well, (and still tow my travel trailer if I was still taking it to rod runs) but I just can't get any enthusiasm for it any more. Wife wants it outta the garage so she can put her Lexus in, so I'm gonna have to hire someone to finish putting the interior into my shop so I can put some cars in there and etc... (Anotehr reason to go back to work to get more $$$$)

My '28 Model A scattered the engine all over the strip when I missed 3rd. (NEVER go racing with a Gennie or a Lokar shifter!) I built a new engine for it, but I just can't seem to get enthusiastic about it. Engine is still on the stand. Thinking of maybe dropping in a 1UZFE (Lexus V8) instead, maybe I'll get around to it someday.
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And what do you do for work? Post up some pictures of the dead projects.

I'm with Brian and a few others, my BS meter is almost pegged!
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And what do you do for work? Post up some pictures of the dead projects.

I'm with Brian and a few others, my BS meter is almost pegged!
MY BS meter is off the scales,, must be some other way to draw attention to yourself,,, if you want to waste you're money on a project that will never be taken seriously, I'm sure a lot of folks here would be happy to relieve you of all that cash,,
this could get interesting,
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Project pix (maybe - if any of 'em will actually LOAD!

Here is the "Project Henway" - to be done Parked beside my 1980 GMC "Heavy Half). In the shelter is my 1976 Grand LeMans. I've re-done the engine 3 times, but the body is "as was". It is the one and only time I ever bought a car brand new from a dealership - and I'll NEVER do THAT again! Can't quite bring myself to send it scrap metal, but that's really all it was ever good for - even when new! It has been hit a couple of times and gotten "MAACO" fixes.

I selected that pic and have now been waiting 20 minutes for it to upload!

Grrrrrr!!!!!

Seems the file size is too big. Now if I can figure out to reduce the file size - ONE pic is about 10 megs and on this site it seems that max is 2 megs so I'm screwed already on that.


Maybe I'll just dump 'em into "pornobukkit" - er - ahem I meant to say photobucket and post a link.

I also took pix of the '57 sleeping in the garage (covered in "stuff") , the '56 F100 in the back yard, the other 1800 (parts car) the '37 Dodge, the 700R4 that is cleverly disguised as an Astrovan (AKA a place to pile scrap metal until I get around to pulling the 700R4 out of it and then take it to thecarpyard.)
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Okay, show us some pictures of your dead projects to make this all a little more believable.

To each his own but......???

I'll bet you could unload all of your stuff over on the H.A.M.B. if you needed some cash.


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Old 07-07-2013, 02:40 PM
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OK - project cars are viewable at:
Cars Photos by Dave57210 | Photobucket

And no, I am not trying to do anything except maybe trying to understand why appearance is so important to some people.

To me, the work done by bodyshops and detailers has NO value whatever. It does not add to performance, ride or handling - so why waste $$$$ on it?

So, when my wife "fell in love with" some of the cars done by this shop and asked why I never "finish" any of mine, I said - OK why not? Maybe it will help me understand why people spend $$$ and time trying to align door gaps and getting the "perfectly smooth" body work to apply umpty-seven layers of hand-rubbed paint onto.

I just don't get it. I honestly do not understand.

Cars that are driven get bumped into, get scratched, get dirty, get dents and bruised - so why waste time & $$$ on something that won't look like that after tomorrow?

If it is gonna be "pretty" - it can't be driven at all. It will be a trailer queen. If I'm gonna spend $$$ on something I can't drive, I'll invest in fine art to hang on the living room wall.

Someone said "what work do I do?" I am a project analyst. Is it worth your company's efforts to open a new factory, to renovate the existing one or whatever?

Is it a good expenditure of tax $$$ to build a new bridge?
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Just so you know Dave, you can hover over your photo on photo bucket, a little gear looking thing will appear in the upper right corner. Once it appears hover over it and a window will open where it says "Get links". Click on that and at the bottom of the list will be "image code" click on the address and it will copy it.

Paste that address here and you will have this.

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Incidentally - I just checked my notes on the '57. It had been going to 7 or 8 rod runs a year, but never venturing out of the garage for any other purpose. I took it to the store once and it got vandalized (got keyed) plus someone decided to see if a diamond WILL scratch glass - they tested it on my windshield.

It sometimes accumulated as much as 500 miles a year. It was costing well over $2.00 per mile for insurance and registration etc.

At that time, I was building my business and money was tight, so I saved $$$ by no longer getting insurance and registration for it - in other words, I stopped taking out of the garage.

I bought it when my son was about 4 months old. He is 27 years old now.

When he was 5 years old he helped me do an engine swap on it - he worked the engine crane for me.

He ran into it with his tricycle when he was about 4 or 5.

Paperboy ran into it with bike, dropped bike down the side of it.

Paint that is on it, was on it when I bought it, ditto interior was in it when I brought it home 27 years ago (complete with wrong front seat - it is out of a 2 door car and is red under the "el cheapo" seat covers. I actually got a correct seat for it (also red, also ripped and torn) out of a wrecked '57 Bel Air 4 dr HT, but have never worked up enough enthusiasm to actually get it re-upholstered and installed. Again- appearance is just NOT important to me.
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