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Old 05-11-2006, 11:34 AM
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P-shop some flame designs for my '32

I'm considering the possibility of flames on my '32 pickup, pictures below for you to download and sketch out your designs. There are, however, a couple "constraints" you need to work around:

1) The truck base color will remain the same...so the flame colors must work well with red. I'm open to any flame color/ghosting options that will look good with the base paint - so let your creativity run wild here.

2) I prefer longer, thinner flames with multiple licks as opposed to short, stubby flames with only a few licks.

3) There need to be mandatory flames or solid flame paint starting at the grill shell and covering at least the top half of the grill shell. The reason for this is that I have some "stars" in the paint there anyhow and I can kill two birds with one stone by simply redoing that area with flames rather than base paint.

4) Same as #3 all along the seam between the hood and the side panels of the engine compartment. There are paint chips and paint damage where the hood rests on the side panels - so I need new paint at least 1-2" above and below the hood/side panel seam.

I really appreciate any of you who might want to take a whack at this. Post or PM me if you have any specific questions. No big monetary awards here - but I will credit you on my show signboard if I use your design.

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Old 05-11-2006, 12:19 PM
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P-shop some flame designs for my '32

Not a P-shop but is this what you are looking for? I happened to run across it right after I saw your post.
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Old 05-11-2006, 01:22 PM
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Not a P-shop but is this what you are looking for? I happened to run across it right after I saw your post.
Yup. Obviously the flames would need to be stretched and adapted to the different contours of the pickup and fenders - but generally I like those licks. If anything even a bit longer and slimmer (front to back).
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Old 05-12-2006, 07:03 AM
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Hey Cboy...are you looking for "Old School" traditional flames or are you going to use "Real Fire" type flames. Just wondering. Personally I like the traditional type flames over the real fire type. Real fire is cool but is over used in my opinion. But that's just my opinion.
I can't Photoshop, but check out this website for some flame ideas.

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Old 05-12-2006, 08:41 AM
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Kevin,

Thanks for the link. I guess I lean more toward traditional flames although I would be interested in seeing real flame photoshoped onto the truck. I don't want to rule it out since in might look just right once it was applied.

In the past I have hesitated about flames because I'm only attracted to maybe one in ten flame jobs. When they are done right and really fit the car, they can blow me away. But when they are done poorly or in a ho-hum fashion, I think they can actually detract from the car. The last thing I want to do is muck up the overall look of the vehicle. As it turns out I don't think it's a particular style or pattern or color I am attracted to, but rather how well the flames fit on the car and how they enhance the attributes of the car rather than simply being a wow factor on TOP of the car.

So I guess what I am after here is somebody with a lot more artistic eye then I have to work with the contours/colors of the truck...not necessarily to adapt something I saw and liked elsewhere, but to have something emerge from the truck's character itself. I hope that makes some sense. I think what I'm saying is the flames that look great on car "A" might look like a mess on car "B".

My hope was that through the magic of photoshoping, I could see first hand what some different flame treatments might look like and from that develop something I could take to a painter. The fact is I don't want to give a painter carte blanc. I did that once when I had my race car lettered and it turned out absolutely awful. He even redid it once for free...and it was STILL awful. (You can see those results here http://hotrodders.com/gallery/data/500/17166VW-3.jpg)
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Cboy....I also ran across this site that may give you some additional ideas. SOME MORE FLAMES Just remember though...the more you look the more confused you will be
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Old 05-13-2006, 01:22 AM
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The style of flames that you are looking for are called "Ohio Flames"
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alright dewey I got a bunch of photoshops fer ya. Sorry it took me a while. I can't always get on the internet, so I downloaded a few flame designs and the picture of your truck and had at it the other day.


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alright just a few more for ya
Some of these I dont think looked to good, but Im putting them here since its your decision. Personally Id go withthe Red ghost flame ones.


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My vote would be for Ghost flames with picture B.

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Brad got paint on the tires

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Old 05-15-2006, 03:06 PM
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so what if I got paint on the tires. It'll burn off when you spin the back tires anyway


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I like design "H"
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you guys did alot better job than me, i tried to lay down some flames that were almost the same color, but they wound up with quite a bit of contrast.

I think some flames that are slightly noticible would look pretty good, like 1 or 2 shades off.
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Brad,

I'm in agreement with both '31 Steve and Old School Chebby that "B" and "H" jump out as the most notable. If I could twist your arm to go into round two I've got a follow up idea.

Using the basic flame pattern of "B" I'd like to paint the nose of the truck (the front of the grill shell and the front edges of the fenders) in gold and then fairly quickly fade the gold back to the existing red while edging all the ghost flames in the same gold to red fade. I'm not after gold flames - but rather a gold ghosting effect around the edges. Actually the flames you did for "B" have a hint of this already - so maybe just stretch the width of the "fade" from the gold outline toward the center of the flames.

The other big challenge is the fenders themselves. This might be tricky to do in P-shop because of the curves etc. But if possible, I'd like to see a pattern similar to B on the front fenders and possibly even the rears.

A big thanks for your work so far. It's much appreciated. Really gives me an idea of what this might look like in real life.
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