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Old 07-16-2005, 04:52 PM
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Is This Paint Gun OK?

I just registered and have my first questions ready. I have a Binks Model 62 with a 66SK tip. Yeah I know it is an antique. I used it along with a Campbell Hausfeld 4 hp belt driven compressor ( 8.1 scfm@ 40 psi and 6.4 scfm @ 80 psi and a 20 gal. tank ) to paint acrylic enamel on a car about 9 years ago. The paint came out fairly well. Is this setup suited for a bc/cc or should I buy something else? New tip or a new paint gun? Bigger tank? If I bought another gun would my compressor hold up for the hvlp 43430 that harbor freight sells that I have read a lot about on this site?

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Old 07-16-2005, 06:01 PM
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Set that Binks up and see how it shoots before buying one of those gimmick guns. Spray some plain thinner through and see how it feels.. More than likely you have a jewel there
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I have a sharpe conventional gun model 775. I am not real familar with the particular binks you have. I've used the model 7 before which is a similar setup to my sharpe. Although my gun does alright with clear, but I will be buying an hvlp gun for clear soon. Not sure what yet. My sharpe just doesn't atomize some clears quite right. I think the tip size is a little big. Plus the amount of pressure a conventional gun shoots at there is a lot of overspray. Material savings alone would justify spending the money on a decent hvlp. There are a few affordable models. I have a hvlp gun that I use for basecoat which does a much better job of laying metallic then my sharpe does and it is a real paint saver. I can lay the base somewhat wet and nice and smooth which I can't seem to do with the sharpe. This also makes covering the base with clear easier. I ended up doing a lot of mist coating with the sharpe to get metallic even before I bought the hvlp. I think you should just invest in an hvlp gun set up for todays clears if you plan on doing any amount of painting. Find out what the cfm ratings are on the harbor freight gun and if its not more then the cfm rating on your compressor, your good to go.
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Use the Binks for laying down primer. I have an old Binks model 69 that does this great. The modern HVLP guns are miles ahead of the older suction guns. You will notice immediatly when using one that the garage or paint booth does not get near as foggy. I have several of the 43430 guns and they are actually pretty good at both base and clear. With a little practice they can deliver excellent finish. One tip though, you have to have a healthy compressor to run these guns, they consume a lot of air.

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I don't know what I was thinking,,, throw that gun into the garbage and buy the yada yada
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I have a Binks Model 62 with a 66SK tip.
I have that same model. It was given to me by a man who now uses HVLP for everything. I've only used it for spraying primer and paint half the landscape when I do.




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Some single stage acrylic and lacquer jobs he did with that gun won 1st and 2nd places at a few shows. I don't think he ever did BC/CC with it, though.
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I painted a my 69 Camaro restoration about 16 years ago with my Binks #69. It was a lacquer job and it turned out great. I sprayed the primer, color and clear all with the same gun.

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You can spray basecoat easily with that old gun but the newer high solids urethane clears will be a challenge, picture about 50-60psi to get that stuff atomized and a very large cloud of overspray. This all relates to material viscosity, the old laquer and enamels these guns were designed for are a lot thinner than today's urethane clears. A non HVLP gravity feed with a 1.4 or 1.3 tip would be the way to go with your smaller compressor. Gravity feed guns require less air than the old suction designs. You'd have troubles painting a complete car with this small compressor and an HVLP gun-not enough air volume.

Astro sells or did sell a nice economical non HVLP 1.4 gravity feed gun called STAR, I bought one years ago and it still works great. Nice straight pattern, excellent atomization, comfortable gun. Once you go to a gravity feed you'll never pick up a siphon gun again. There's many knock off non HVLP guns available if you want to save some $$.

Or if you want a premium setup invest in a larger compressor and an Iwata LPH-400, the gun will set you back about $400 with regulator. Bob
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If you are use to spraying siphon feed guns, the gravity will feel a little strange at first. I remember the first time I used a gravity gun it felt awkward and heavy on the top when full of paint, but after a little use it feels natural. The gravity gun also sprays till empty, with a siphon feed there is always a slight amount of material left in the bottom that it won't pick up and spray. I will probably get a gravity feed hvlp for spraying clear. All the guns I have right now are with the cup on the bottom. My basecoat gun is actually pressure feed because it has a hose that runs from the gun to the cup and a nob to release pressure. So many choices of guns. I refuse to pay 400 to 500 for a gun. They aren't made out of gold. There isn't really all that much to a spray gun.
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