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Old 06-15-2010, 03:16 PM
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Paint guy left me hanging

Long story short: Paid a guy to base/ clear my vehicle. Black - when I picked it up it looked great. He advised that it needed a final buff and he would come to my shop and complete after I had the fenders deck lid assembled. (removed for painting). Took awhile to complete assembly and the painter is no where to be found. After washing, (probably removing glaze?) sanding marks more pronounced. Look like maybe 1000-1200 color sand marks. Only good news is this condition exists in just a few places that are about 1'x1' or smaller in size. The clear is now 1 year old. I have tried 3m perfect it 05973 and Imperial hand glaze 05973 however I don't seem to be getting the gloss/depth thats on most of the vehicle. I really don't have the knowledge to figure this out and would appreciate any help/ suggestions.

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Old 06-15-2010, 07:40 PM
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Well the rubbing compound is not going to work over 1000-1200 scratches especially black. You need to color sand thru 2500 minimum, on black i go to 4000 before i start any buffing. Since the clear is so old it may be tough going but doable. Good Luck
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Sounds to me that the painter had to sand out some runs because of the size of the area that was sanded. You don;t want to go to far so I would start with 2000 grit, wet sand the area and see if that takes out the scratches, if it does then on to 3000 and finish in 4000. Expect the wet sanding paper to be pricey but that is what it takes. It can be difficult to see your progress and because of this sanding through is quite common leaving the only option of repainting the entire panel. So take your time and don;t rush it. After finishing in 4000 the polishing process begins. Everyone has their own way of doing things that works for them and this is the process and products I use. I start with a heavy cut polish Meguiar's #85 diamond cut compound then to Meguiar's #3 machine glaze and finish with Meguiars #7 show car glaze. Another thing to watch out for is not to use to much speed and pressure with your polisher.
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Old 06-17-2010, 06:22 AM
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Sounds to me that the painter had to sand out some runs because of the size of the area that was sanded. You don;t want to go to far so I would start with 2000 grit, wet sand the area and see if that takes out the scratches, if it does then on to 3000 and finish in 4000. Expect the wet sanding paper to be pricey but that is what it takes. It can be difficult to see your progress and because of this sanding through is quite common leaving the only option of repainting the entire panel. So take your time and don;t rush it. After finishing in 4000 the polishing process begins. Everyone has their own way of doing things that works for them and this is the process and products I use. I start with a heavy cut polish Meguiar's #85 diamond cut compound then to Meguiar's #3 machine glaze and finish with Meguiars #7 show car glaze. Another thing to watch out for is not to use to much speed and pressure with your polisher.
I would be real careful using something as aggressive as #85 particularly if I hadn't done the painting myself. I would probably use #1 Medium Cut then go to #3 if it was Meguire's. Heck, I've even gone through the clear with #3. What I really prefer are the Presta cut 'n' buff products, but the Meguire's works well if careful. Their polish products are the best IMHO.

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use meguiars 105 followed by 205 after wet sanding then use a good paint sealant then wax it it. you using a rotary or a da? you use a rotary becareful can burn through real easy. use pads that work for your application. good luck
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