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Old 10-23-2011, 07:09 PM
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paint hardener shot?

ive been kustom painting bikes cars etc for 8 yrs and never had a problem like this i bought a limco base , reducer and a 415 hardener i used limco clear before great stuff. this time around not true the base coat sucks ... mixed according to directions base coat lays on great, smooth as glass but it never cured been 2 days and it's still tacky my guess the hardener is frigged up any ideas says u can clear after 30 minutes at 68 degress 3 days wasted and now have to remove this and respray

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yes this was bought on friday morning and i sprayed it that afternoon
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I have not a clue but bad hardener could be the culprit..i used to sell paint supplies and if it was bought from us we just replaced the material..try washing it with reducer to get it off..

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ive been kustom painting bikes cars etc for 8 yrs and never had a problem like this i bought a limco base , reducer and a 415 hardener i used limco clear before great stuff. this time around not true the base coat sucks ... mixed according to directions base coat lays on great, smooth as glass but it never cured been 2 days and it's still tacky my guess the hardener is frigged up any ideas says u can clear after 30 minutes at 68 degress 3 days wasted and now have to remove this and respray

you did nothing wrong and the activator is fine, take can with mixing label to jobber and tell him, if he feeds you any BS like you screwed it up, insist on talking to the direct rep for company.
That is all I will say.
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I've been doing paint since '72, and only had bad hardener once. I overcatalyzed the next coat, and it never had a problem... but I think I was lucky. I would not recommend painting over it.

When I got that bad hardener, it was on a black truck, and really ticked me off! When I get an unreliable product now, I stop using it immediately. I can work on the most overwhelming projects for months.. but just don't have the patience to redo work.
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well went back to the store i never heard this before but they said its a new base coat system and you have to clear coat while it's tacky MMMM so i took the other color off reprimed and added less hardener. the directions 3:1 then 3% hardener so far so good. just put the 2nd color coat on ill clear it later on this afternoon
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Sounds like one of the crappiest brands of paint just got even worse.while your at it,ask them how you do a two tone or flames etc...if you cant put tape on the base...
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yoh bud, had this happen. either not enough hardner to slow it down. or just try this got any heat ??? i put a space heater on either side of truck set heat at 75 shut up shop let it bake. it dryed then don't use that **** again. good luck oldfart
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well i put just a smigen of hardener dam stuff set right up why bother with the hardener guess maybe i put too much before . when i do a flame job i always put 3 or 4 coats of clear first wet sand then add any art work even with the real fire this way the candy colors dont bleed into the base but you knew that already
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I didnt know limco made candies ,I stopped using it over 10 years ago and then it was only used on overalls on lot cars .back then it was a cheap ,converted enamel with one paint that came with three different hardeners to convert it to base ,urathane or acrilic enamel .Limco 123 I believe it was called....but I've never had a candie bleed through either .I always put the candie in an intermix (clear base coat}
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every one does things different i dont know if limco makes candies either i use kustom shop or HOK candies
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