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Old 02-12-2007, 07:20 PM
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Martin - if paint managed to travel far enough to get on those dishes, I hate to see what the interior of the car looked like! ;>
The car was fine, it got into the house SOMEHOW, I don't think I figured it out for sure. All I am saying, it has a way of getting into places you didn't think possible.

It's like "bagging" a car with plastic. If you don't have real good air movement, and we are talking in the practical sense, a "booth" you are going to get overspray all over the rest of the car. Even with a good booth, depending on how it is wrapped, you still can get overspray ALL over the car but allowing just a little go get under that bag.

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Solvent fumes, OK.

How does airborne clear and iso's (heavier) squeeze though a door frame of a house?
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Old 02-12-2007, 07:37 PM
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Solvent fumes, OK.

How does airborne clear and iso's (heavier) squeeze though a door frame of a house?
Well, there was the proof, overspray on the dishes, how it got there, I am not sure. As I said, it got there somehow. I am thinking thru the attic and down thru a vent or something goofy like that.

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Well, there was the proof, overspray on the dishes, how it got there, I am not sure. As I said, it got there somehow. I am thinking thru the attic and down thru a vent or something goofy like that.

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That would make more sense.
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Anybody have any plans or pictures for putting a box around or on the squirrel cage blowers so that filters can be fitted up?

Another idea for the incoming air that we did a while ago is to take some wood and make a door that fits on the existing hinges of a door opening in the garage. (obviously NOT one leading anywhere but outside) and fit it with filters. This way when you want to do some serious painting you switch out the doors and you have your filtered opening.
Of course you still have to have a good exhaust setup, also filtered.

Just put a lock or latch on it so none of your buddies stop by while painting and decide to come-on-in!
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Vince,
I'm surprised you didn't blow yourself up with an open frame cooled box fan motor (were you using your HF purple gun for all that overspray?) !!!

The fan that I now have has a TEFC (totally enclosed) motor for hazardous area use - a must for painting.
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Fan was an induction motor, no brushes, and it was used not for suction.

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I used to work at a Ford dealership in the late 70's that had a bodyshop.
There was an exhaust fan mounted on the east wall.

The fellow that lived across the alley owned a transmision shop, and was one of my customers. He called me after-hours on a Sunday because he needed a part, so I walked across the alley from the dealership to give it to him.

When he met me at the gate, he said "Look at what your bodyshop exhaust fan is doing to my lawn." ... BIG area directly in line with the fan where the grass was all but dead.

I recall thinking that "If it isn't good for the lawn, it sure as hell isn't good for Joe either."
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I knew a guy that for years painted cars in a self storage garage that he rented for 85 bucks a month, the place had electric for lighting inside, it was in an industrial location, gas powered compressor in the bed of his truck (which also served as air source when he sand blasted cars in sandy woods of NJ), the only problems he had was from the noise of bands that used the place to practice, that was a great place to hang out, free music, car painting, auto repairs, LOL, the good old days,
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exhaust can be made out of old furnace fan. box it in , then place it in door opening so it exhausts to the out side, seal door area with plastic leaving only the box front exposed. Connect some duct work to it placing it near bottom sides of car or under it. This creates a down draft type spray booth with the suction from fan pulling fumes and dust to venting and blowing it out side thru fan box. This works just like a cold air return but blows air to out side. Also build a filter housing to fit windows to make up fresh air . Use furnace filters for windows , you get fresh air to garage and fumes disposed of at a cheap price. Clean paint job is a plus.

You can also filter inside fan box to slow fumes to outside air.

This isn't intended for production work but for the hobbist who will do it himself . A paint job every 5 to 10 years won't bother the enviorment to bad.

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I plan on using one of these fans for my exhaust fan in my makeshift spraybooth.
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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Here is a much better choice - 110 volts, explosion proof motor and is speed adjustable using their speed control switch. You need the smallest version for a 1 stall garage to not pick up trash. There are other post and threads you need to look at on this forum as well

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/p...OVMTC=standard

The radiator fan will not work right and is 12 volt.

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Home made paint booth


http://www.mckennasgarage.com/xke/jag_25.htm
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That's about the scariest setup I've ever seen...a fire waiting to happen for sure with 6 exposed household fans...oh yeah it might work but you're asking for trouble at some point...Say the power goes out while you are spraying...the fumes build up and the power comes back on...kaboom!

And I can't imagine the amount of dust created by the static properties of the plastic sheeting...you may as well paint it outside...
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Here is a much better choice - 110 volts, explosion proof motor and is speed adjustable using their speed control switch. You need the smallest version for a 1 stall garage to not pick up trash. There are other post and threads you need to look at on this forum as well

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/p...OVMTC=standard

The radiator fan will not work right and is 12 volt.

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I hooked up my car battery charger to my aftermarket fan (that came out of my car) as a power source and it pushed alot of air. The fan motor is completely sealed. Any particular reason why it wouldn't work?

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I hooked up my car battery charger to my aftermarket fan (that came out of my car) as a power source and it pushed alot of air. The fan motor is completely sealed. Any particular reason why it wouldn't work?
It may push/pull too much air depending on how you have it rigged. Some of these rad fans are capable of moving up to 2700 CFM. For a single stall garage type homemade booth you will only need about 8-900 cfm. You don't want a wind in there - you want to move the bad crap out and good air in but not a like a hurricane and stir up all the dirt from everywhere.

Take a look at this post and you will get an idea of sizing in Post 9:
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