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elcaminodragster 06-02-2009 07:56 AM

painting car today need advice please
 
Okay everyone you have all been a huge help! now i need more help on painting :D

my car is all primed with epoxy (4coats) now i need advice on how to final spray a single stage acrylic urethane

its hot rod black with a satin finish. do i need to worry about hiding lines like a flat paint??? where do i start painting??? top???? bottom????

and i am painting on hood stripes. how long do i have to wait before i can apply tape to lay out the stripes??? they will be white.

im off to work ill be back later today thank you all very much!

302 Z28 06-02-2009 09:09 AM

Top to bottom always.

The stripes depend on your single stage, read the spec sheet on recoat.

Vince

kenseth17 06-02-2009 09:43 AM

Everyone has there pattern around a car, you basically want a pattern where one area hasn't sat too long, and you end up with a dry edge at the end of you pattern, because the overspray will no longer melt in. Using a slower speed reducer helps with getting around a car as well, although with a flattened paint could mean a little bit more shine then if a fast reducer were used with the same amount of flattener.
The pattern I follow is one half of roof down to pillar, other half of roof. Quarter on the side I started, deck lid, other quarter, back to first side door, other side door, finish up with hood and fenders. I usually start at the bottom and work my way up, on the side panels.
Not set in stone, really depends on how fast the paint is setting up, sometimes will paint more at once before swapping sides, say quarter and door before walking around and dragging the hose over to the other side. It also helps to go edge things like the lips of the wheel well openings and bottom of rockers, harder to get areas, and get them hit good with a layer of paint before starting on the big panels.

I like to start with the roof because it the biggest pain in the butt to me to paint, and usually the only spot that will end up sitting awhile before I get back around to it, is the the front pillar and it is a small area.
Watch your hose and body when leaning over a panel you already squirted paint on.

Like vince said, read your tech sheets for you product. Hopefully they put tape time in there for a guide. You have to wait long enough that the tape will no longer mark the paint.

I am not sure what you mean by hiding lines, but a flat paint its just important to have good spraygun technique and setup, as well as a good sequence around the vehicle. If you don't evenly apply, possible to have different levels of gloss, and could still get dryer looking edge if your paint overspray doesn't melt into a previously painted panel.

elcaminodragster 06-03-2009 12:00 AM

well my work day ran really long and i did not have enough daylight to paint after all the prep work was done :(

But tomorrow is another day hopefully i will have time then. thank you for the advice. i will read the tech sheet in great detail.

thank you agian

Chevrolet4x4s 06-03-2009 06:30 PM

Are you dead set on white stripes? Gunmetal grey or a medium charchoal would look awesome.
Shane

elcaminodragster 06-03-2009 07:35 PM

that color for the stripes??? because i already bought the hot rod black.

Chevrolet4x4s 06-03-2009 11:09 PM

yeah for the stripes,maybe even have them go into a checkered flag from mid hood back, want a sketch?

Shane

elcaminodragster 06-04-2009 03:45 PM

im far from being good enough to do that lol. i primed and will be painting with zero teaching or practice. i learned from trial and error. the primer turned out extremely well tho. but thats just primer.

im just going to go with a dark gray of some sort. ill be spraying the black tomorrow after work. saturday i wont be home so ill have to paint the stripes sunday.

i just hope i can paint soon because i entered the car into the american graffiti cruise and show on june 12 13 and 14.


what tape do you recommend for taping off for the stripes? yellow? blue? green? im thinking green for sharp lines but it sticks strong and i dont want to harm the paint. then i think the blue because it comes off easy but its been know to bleed paint.

elcaminodragster 06-04-2009 05:36 PM

Imron paint????
 
is imron any good??? ive read good and bad things about it.

what i need to know is will the industrial imron used on farm equipment and what not good enough for hood stripes??? i talked to the guy at the paint shop and he told me nothing sprays good over acrylic urethane.

all they have in a SATIN finish is imron. the quart kit is 70bucks!!!


and i want a satin finish. if i you know where i can find it please tell me. either a dark gray or white.

52F1 06-05-2009 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcaminodragster
is imron any good??? ive read good and bad things about it.

what i need to know is will the industrial imron used on farm equipment and what not good enough for hood stripes??? i talked to the guy at the paint shop and he told me nothing sprays good over acrylic urethane.

all they have in a SATIN finish is imron. the quart kit is 70bucks!!!


and i want a satin finish. if i you know where i can find it please tell me. either a dark gray or white.


Get another paint store...You mean to tell me that they cannot get you the Satin paint for the old Boss Mustang and Mach1 stripe ??

They made Mustangs with both Black and Grey satin stripes
other muscle cars as well

Get another paint store

52F1

elcaminodragster 06-05-2009 07:22 PM

thats what they told me. ill go to this other paint shop. they treated me like dirt last time i went there but they have a good selection. a bit pricey tho.


well my car is painted. no stripes yet but shes got 3 coats of hot rod black satin finish. and i must say i think i did very well for my first time with no training or any real knowledge on how to paint a car :D

ill post pics when i paint the stripes!

elcaminodragster 06-09-2009 10:34 PM

I Am Done!!!!
 
Here is the final final!!! Im done finished the paaint is complete!!!

Thank you everyone for all your help! I cant thank you enough!

here are some pics!!! from start to finish!

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/594/epoxyprimer016.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/432...yprimer021.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/218...yprimer026.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/678...yprimer031.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/847...yprimer035.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/411...primer028w.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1...yprimer039.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4...primer040i.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3...primer041d.jpg

Thank you again to everyone for all your help!!! I am extremly pleased with the out come!

Wraith 06-10-2009 07:55 AM

Is that your frist time doing body work? Not to be and *** but you should of did alot more blocking on the body work on that car.

52F1 06-10-2009 11:13 AM

what did You use ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elcaminodragster


What did you use for the satin Silver ??

52F1

Fast Eddie D 06-10-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 52F1
What did you use for the satin Silver ??

52F1


Yeah, I like the silver.

I have some Kirker Ultra Glo silver I've been experimenting with, it's really nice. I found that if you spray it a little dry it comes out satin, really cool.

Edit: x2 on the blocking (I just spent a week of 10 hour days blocking my Lincoln), but it looks really nice. Good job. Without the silver stripes, it would be just another rat rod, but the stripes rock.


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