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Old 10-13-2011, 10:33 PM
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Painting over base coat clear coat

Hello, I have a question. I painted my truck with a base coat clear coat, shot black and then a flat clear. I had problems with this. Now I am going to use Paint Shop by Dupicolor laquer. Will I need to prime first, or can I scuff and paint it? Wondering if I need to sand down through the clear.

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What kind of problems did you have? What kind of paint did you use? If you used a urethane, I would repaint it with a single stage black urethane, you don't need the clear on there. You can color sand a solid color....I would stay as far away from that Duplicolor paint as I could after seeing the Mustang they painted on TV with it.
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I think that's a bit excessive thing to do. As for me wouldn't do it either.




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Whatever you are spraying... sand with 600-800. Try NOT to go through the clear.

On a footnote... I've been doing this professionally for about 40 years. I've used lacquer for most of that time.

Lacquer products do not hold up very long compared to urethanes or catalyzed enamels. Depending on how you use it... clean it... and how much time it spends in the sun.. you could be repainting the car again in a very short time! :-(
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Painting over base coat clear coat

Hey guys, thanks for the input. The problems we had were, when we shot the clear, the cab came out nice and flat, the fenders and bed came out satin finish... (sprayed at same time.) We tried this again 3 more times and that when I gave up. Can not figure out what the deal was.

I didn't really care after all the trouble if it was flat or satin, I just wanted one or the other. Then I heard about the Dupicolor paint on Two guys garage. They did some stuff with it and it looked pretty easy. What show was the mustang on, and what happened? This is the first Ive heard.
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The Mustang was on Power Block TV. It looked really bad. There was a lot of negative comments about the paint on several different BBs.....They make single stage urethane hot rod black if that is what you are trying to do. You can scuff the clear and paint right over the top.
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A while back, I painted some parts with 2k "Hot Rod Flatz" brand and noticed that they came out in varying shades of "gloss". I posted a query here and Barry responded back with info concerning this problem. The bottom line is that one must be very careful with recoat times. If you push the window, you'll get more gloss. After experimenting with this, I found it to be true. The sooner you recoat, the glossier the "flatness".

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Thanks for the input. I had bought some of the dupicolor paint, have not opened it, I will take back and then buy the HotRod flatz. I was going to try it and then saw the Dupicolor paint.

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satin black

I would sand the clear with 500 wet. Re-coat with Kustom shop hot rod flatz(black) this product is a single stage with flattening agent already in it. Make sure you stir the color very well before adding hardener or you could have issues with gloss %. I just finished a 39 ford with this material,it worked out great!
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Hey drybones, thanks for the tip. I am looking forward to trying it.
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