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painting question

I was thinking of painting my car with one of these kits.... has anyone used them before and what do you think of them.... now one thing that I don't understand it that is says everything you need to paint your car, a disposable mask...... is this paint safer than most or is that a bunch of crap? I was thinking of purchasing a fresh air hood. I have 2 cars I want to paint then maybe sell it at a reduced price ... kind of like paying it forward.... anyway any input would be appriciated...

http://www.paintforcars.com/urethane...its_5star.html


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i used it a couple of times on bike tins it goes on fairly nice
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You definetly need a respirator to spray that paint.
Any paint that uses a hardener (activator) is a serious threat to
your health. Buy a respirator with charcoal filters and you'll be fine.
A fresh air hood is even better.
I can't believe that dust mask is what they include, that's for
sanding, not spraying paint.
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The only kind of painting that I've done is on bare metal, so I'm not sure about this, but you might want to confirm that you can just paint with that urethane base over the existing finish.

Depending on the type of paint on the car now, the condition of it, and how long you want it to last, there may be more to it than that.
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All that you have there is some cheap base coat and some clear coat..you need a lot more than that..starting with primers and prep..Go back to the drawing board..

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Okay ...... I was only going to use this for the base and clear.... the car is under an epoxy primer now I am going to shoot a high build primer and sand etc.... I was only using this as the base and clear... I wanted to know if this was an decent paint... I and many others use these threads for help and not crappy attitudes Like "SAM'S" response go back to the drawing board... just because I didn't specify about the prep work doesn't mean it wasn't being done... My question was is this paint Base and Clear a decent paint... that is all ... thanks to those who like to help and give opinons for expirence of a product... I don't think myself or anyone else looking for advice want opinions from people who think they are god! and every one else is below them!!! Everyone who is a body man or painter had to start somewhere and got advice from someone... so lets just help each other and not be negative!!!!

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I've got the hobby-air setup and I like it (air fed hood). Mine is the white hood, but I wonder of the other mask that looks like a fireman-mask might be better because when you turn your head, my hood doesn't always turn with it...

I bought lime-green lacquer from them. It was a little 'off' on the shade, and had hard yellow 'specks' in it that didn't filter out with a standard paint strainer (I use 2 every time).

tried Kirker ?? I've used their stuff with decent results...

http://www.smartshoppersinc.com/kirk...urethanes.html

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Other inexpensive paint options

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Okay ...... I was only going to use this for the base and clear.... the car is under an epoxy primer now I am going to shoot a high build primer and sand etc.... I was only using this as the base and clear... I wanted to know if this was an decent paint... I and many others use these threads for help and not crappy attitudes Like "SAM'S" response go back to the drawing board... just because I didn't specify about the prep work doesn't mean it wasn't being done... My question was is this paint Base and Clear a decent paint... that is all ... thanks to those who like to help and give opinons for expirence of a product... I don't think myself or anyone else looking for advice want opinions from people who think they are god! and every one else is below them!!! Everyone who is a body man or painter had to start somewhere and got advice from someone... so lets just help each other and not be negative!!!!

thanks,
simon
TCPGlobal.com has some cheap paints. They are out of California and they ship nation wide. I had good luck with their acrylic enamels, but I also know they sell base/clear paints. This outfit puts out HotRod Flatz paint.

Just another option.
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Thank you guys for the input, no I have not tried Kirker paints.... actually It looks like a better deal... I guess it is a "lower" grade paint as well... here is the thing it is going on a hot rod so It really isn't going to be exsposed to the elements too often.... and will be garage kept.. so I would think that a lower grade paint would hold up since it isn't going to be in the weather 365 days a year.. it is also going to be my first paint job so I don't want to pay tons of money for something a may need to sand off and repaint from mistakes... again thanks for the good input :-)
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Kirker is NOT a lower quality paint.
It is lower priced.
Thay have been in business for over 100 yrs.
Have you heard anything bad? you would considering the 1000's of cars
painted with it (including mine) if it didn't hold up.
Their urethane is the toughest paint I've used.
I painted my aluminum fishing boat with it for that very reason.
It's tough, really hard to scratch off.
Don't assume lesser quality because of a lower price,
the big brand guys love to make you think that.
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http://www.kirkerautomotive.com/html/gallery_home.asp

Stuff looks good to me...
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Simon,

Looks like you may have already decided on another paint brand but regarding your question about the paper mask they picture in the promo...no one should be fooled by that and it IS a bunch of crap to even show it and thereby suggest to the novice buyer that it will protect them. The Tech Sheet at Paintforcars says:

PRODUCT SAFETY INFORMATION:
Before using any Rayflex product, be sure to read all safety directions and
warnings. WEAR PROPERLY FITTED AIR PURIFYING RESPIRATOR with organic
vapor cartridges (NIOSH approved TC-23C) and particulate filter (NIOSH TC-
84A), eye protection, gloves and protective clothing during application and
until all vapors and spray mists are exhausted. In confined spaces, or
in situations where continuous spray operations are typical, or if proper air
purifying respirator fit is not possible, wear a positive- pressure, supplied air
respirator (NIOSH TC-19). In all cases follow respirator manufacturer’s
directions for respirator use. Do not permit anyone without protection in the
painting area. Only professional, trained painters intend this product for
industrial use. For more information CONSULT MATERIAL SAFETY DATA
SHEET.


You are quite right to be considering a remote air respirator like the Hobby Air. They might be a bit awkward and bulky feeling...but they can save your life.
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Kirker does look good and I am glad to hear good things about it.... I think that is what am going to go with.. and a fresh air hood! I appriciate all of your help ! once again thank for all the input...

thanks,
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