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PEARL paint

when Pearl is the last word of the color name, what does this mean...
what is pearl paint..
being a newbie, how does this differ from paint that is not pearl ?
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Pearl essence is an additive that gives a multicolor effect.
there are different hues of pearl.

It is an option like metallic or solid colored etc,

heres a link to a pearl repair that shows a 3 stage "factory pack" pearl
http://www.a2zautoforums.com/showthr...ght=Sail+panel

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so to paint the entire car with a pearl, there would be the base coat, the pearl coat, then the clear ?

i want to paint the entire car but in steps and in pieces. Meaning say the fenders, then the hood, then the trunk lid and so forth. (not on all the same day)
Is this an acceptable method ?
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Well, thats one way to do it, but you could also just use a single-stage with pearl finish (not recommended for beginners), or you could use a basecoat/clearcoat with a pearl basecoat. As far as painting it on different days, ummmm, why would ya wanna do that? Id advise against it...itd be near impossible to make it all match perfectly laying the finish coats on at different times. Using a pearl or metallic would make it even harder to match and if youre not doing it in a booth that even adds to the difficulty, as any change in the weather will affect it. I suppose if you have no other options and it must be painted on different days, you MIGHT get away with it by using a solid color BC/CC.
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Honestly the term "pearl" is not what it used to be. Twenty or thirty years ago when you heard "Pearl" it meant a "three stage" paint job. Base coat, then a clear with pearl added to it over the base and then the clear on top of that. The "mid coat" pearl was a transparent color that you could of course see the base thru it. The final color was made up of this combination of the transparent pearl coat over the base coat.

These days however, you will see the term "Pearl" added to many colors that are simply a "metallic" color and nothing that special at all. It is being thrown around like "Light" in food products, it hardly means anything anymore.

That "Pearl" color you are looking at could very well simply be a metallic type color that is really no more difficult to spray than any other metallic.

And in a basecoat clear coat "bc/cc" system, metallics are no big deal. Shooting a single stage "SS" metallic, WHOA there buddy, now that is a challenge.

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The color I painted my 34 is "deep molten red pearl". I watched the tech at our local PPG jobber mix up the gallon cans of it for me. He added two types of pearl and between those two types he used an entire bottle of pearl per gallon. In bright sunlight you can most definitely see the pearl.


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Vince, that is a beautiful car! Man I love those model 40s. On the pearl, yes "pearl" is an additive a "toner" added to the color just as all the other colors in the "recipe" are added to create a color. Not that long ago there were no pearls at all (or one or two) in a mixing bank. These days the "metallic" toners have largely been replaced with "pearls". They are effectively doing the same thing.

My point was it isn't a "Three stage" as a "Pearl" paint job was in the past.

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Vince, that is a beautiful car! Man I love those model 40s.
My point was it isn't a "Three stage" as a "Pearl" paint job was in the past.
Brian
Thanks Brian, yes it's a base and clear (2 stage)....lots of base $$$$ and lots of clear $$$$$$.

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so to paint the entire car with a pearl, there would be the base coat, the pearl coat, then the clear ?

i want to paint the entire car but in steps and in pieces. Meaning say the fenders, then the hood, then the trunk lid and so forth. (not on all the same day)
Is this an acceptable method ?
Metallic paints are more advanced than solids and pearls are more advanced than metallics. That is because as you gain experience you will better be able to apply paint with the steadiness, for lack of a better term, to get an even coat.

An easy thing to screw up is that you'll get something that looks like tiger stripes because you apply the paint heavier at the middle of where each pass sprays the body panel. Solids are easier because this effect is not as apparent, with metallics and pearls you're actually applying a sorta translucent coat, so the thickness and even-ness matter a lot more than solids.

I doubt anyone with the experience to do pearls would do it any way other than painting the entire car at once. You may be able to get away with it on solids, but even then it's preferred to do the whole car at once. You can literally have a door that's one shade of your color sitting right next to a fender that's a completely different shade. Paint batches may be mixed differently or solids might settle or you might even move your spray gun at a different speed.

If you do 3 stage, you might be able to base coat the panels seperately. Someone will have to speak to doing multi-stage painting on different days, I have stuck with single stage painting and didn't pay attention, but I think that doing the base coat on different days and coming back later for pearl then clearcoat might mean you'll have to wet sand between your base coat and later stages. And that can also depend on what paint system you're using too.
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The 34 in the picture was painted in pieces over a span of about a month. All pieces matched perfectly, and I am by no means an expert painter.

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All pieces matched perfectly, and I am by no means an expert painter.
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The 34 in the picture was painted in pieces over a span of about a month. All pieces matched perfectly, and I am by no means an expert painter.

Vince
Honestly? You are either unbelievably lucky, or you REALLY thought about it a LOT and made it happen. I see MANY experianced painters who don't pull that off! GOOD JOB!!

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HOLEY MOLLEY that is beautiful.. love YOUR color !!

Actually I have a pickup and not enough space to remove that bed, fenders, hood, tailgate and lay them all out to spray them all at the same time.
I am thinking of using a 2008 Jeep color, Red Rock Crystal Pearl.
Being a newbie, am i wrong in thinking it will be ok to paint the parts on different days ?
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This car I had painted, black base, 1st coat of clear had violet pearl in it then 3 more coats of clear. The pearl was weighted before it was put in the clear so if there was any problems it would be an easy match. I put a deep scratch in the door and it was impossible to get it matched. My next car will be a factory mix paint.

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Honestly? You are either unbelievably lucky, or you REALLY thought about it a LOT and made it happen. I see MANY experianced painters who don't pull that off! GOOD JOB!!

Brian
It really was not that big of a deal. I did have access to a professional paint booth and an old pro for advice. BarryK also solved a few problems I had early on also. During the painting process I ran out of the first gallon of mixed paint. Got a second and third and mixed them together. I was afraid they would not match. I had already painted my fenders, running boards, grill shell, and cut in the doors and jambs. I used the new gallons first on my gas tank cover to check the color match in direct sunlight and was good to go.

This is the picure I took after painting my gas tank cover to check the match with the rear fenders.

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