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Is pearl paint too difficult for a first timer?

Not trying to match anything, just saw a really nice pearl orange color and thought it might be something to try. I will be shooting the whole car with a base/clear of some sort. Just curious to know if there are reasons to stay away from a pearl for the first job.

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Old 03-31-2010, 08:11 PM
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Not a good place to start for your first full body job IMHO
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Pearl is not hard for someone that has a little experience but if it is your first paint job then I would stay with something simple
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I agree ,even BC/CC is a little tough.I'd start off with SS solid color urathane.
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paid to practice

50 years ago I worked in a shop that built food processing equipment and farm equipment I was asked if I could paint. I had done the sanding and primer on my car but had someone else spray the color. I was soon the designated painter. No runs, thin spots. they said that was the best finish they has sent out in years.
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Another probably simple question....what is the "SS" in "SS solid color urethane"? Will this type of paint last a long time and look good? Does it need to be/have to be polished?
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single stage.. doesn't need buffed. it'll shine w/o, but it will shine better with a nice cut and buff.. pretty durable and easy to spray
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I read the tech sheet on a single stage acrylic urethane. Is that what we are talking about? It mentions that a clear coat could be added if more protection is desired, but it does not say at what point you would shoot clear over it. Would you wait past the stated 16 hour drying time? Or do it at some point before? Or wait longer?
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the tech sheet should state the recoat time.. it might not say it directly for clear, being it is Single stage, but you can use the paint recoat time
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SS= single stage... no clear coat.
there are many brands from 50.00 all the way up to 800.00 a gallon..... forget metallic in SS paint they will look like crap even if a pro does it.
I really like Nason ful-thane at around 100 -150.00 a gallon it'll last 5-10 yrs if prepped well...
BC/CC will run two to three times that ,so,If you have your heart set on a metallic or pearl BC/CC is a must... get a base with your pearls already mixed in it.
.. don't even try using a tri coat system for a first attempt (way to complicated)
Some guys get lucky with their first attempt at base /clears ...Just gotta ask yourself one question, ...(do ya feel lucky).....
all paints can be polished
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Something Deadbodyman always preaches is for metallic or pearl, use the Chromabase or other good base, for solid colors you can get away with Nason or Omni. The good bases are made with less binder which actually results in better coverage with less material usually. It also turns out to be moderately 10-20% more to use the good base than the cheap stuff once you figure in the amount of color/base you have to buy. It takes nearly twice as much of the cheap base as it does of the good base to achieve the same coverage. At elast this is my experience with this stuff.

Back to the original question, I wouldn't try a pearl or metallica as a first paint job, but to each his own, you might turn out to have a knack for this work.
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I'll go a bit against the grain here and encourage you to take a shot with the pearl...but with the condition that you use a paint with the pearl mixed into the base (as others have mentioned above).

I shot my sedan/delivery with this Restoration Shop brand and it was my first bc/cc. I had shot a few cars with lacquer some years back and one with a solid urethane, so I really had no experience with the bc/cc system or with metallics or pearls. I'm pretty happy with the results. You can hunt around at that link above to find other colors with the pearl already mixed in the paint.

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O.K., I am sold on the SS solid color. Never having purchased paint before, can I get Nason on-line, or is it a paint store kind of thing?

The tech sheet I was reading was from an outfit on-line called TCP Global, I think....their "restoration shop" brand, at $119 for the SS acrylic urethane kit. Anybody know whether this brand is good or bad?
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The whole deal with painting is getting the natural feel and fluid movement of your hand ,Once you get it, you can paint just about anything if you have a good eye ....Some guys are naturals (like C boy) others have to work on it and then again others never get there..
really wanting to do it yourself is half the battle....The lower costof SS will also take a lot of pressure you, so dont worry if you mess up the first attempt the second try you'll be blessed.
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....their "restoration shop" brand, at $119 for the SS acrylic urethane kit. Anybody know whether this brand is good or bad?
I think we must have cross-posted onpyramid . See my entry above yours. I used Restoration Shop from TCP global. You can see more of the results in my journal starting about here.

The body just after being shot with Restoration Shop Firethorne Pearl Red and clear.

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