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Old 09-20-2013, 09:33 AM
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Pedal Boxes?

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Has anyone used a floor-mount pedal box like this Wilwood?



My little Rambler American will have limited room in the footwell after enlarging the trans tunnel for a scattershield. I have a set of factory manual hanging pedals but they will require lots of mods to fit and it will leave me little room for a throttle pedal. My concern is my size 12's mashing all three pedals at the same time...

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Do you remember the old Ansen Hyd clutch and brake pedal boxes? They might work for you; if you can find one
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Do you remember the old Ansen Hyd clutch and brake pedal boxes? They might work for you; if you can find one
Those are being reproduced, and marketed on E-Bay; probably cost less that a used original. The dual chamber master cylinder would seem to be the harder to find part. Butch/junior stocker.
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Not sure I can mod my factory pedals (move them towards the door) enough. If that's the case, hanging pedals are out and I'll need a floor-mount like the Wilwood. My concern is the proximity of the pedals to the others and having enough room for my feet to function...

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Why not relocate the factory pedals by either bending the arms, or cutting and welding them with an offset? I've done this on several swaps, and it works great. Just keep in mind if you bend them too much to one side it will change the ratio slightly, so sometimes cutting and extending them to get a "dogleg" in them works better. Arms don't have to be straight to work well.
I have a lot of engine setback in my Falcon with a BBC installed, so I totally lost all the original gas pedal room. I heated and bent both brake and clutch pedals, and made room for my homemade gas pedal. I still had to rework my freshly built trans tunnel with a small indent for the pedal area, as I needed room for the pivot for the gas pedal. As you might notice in this picture, the Falcon has a huge tunnel, but with pedals bent to the left I have room for the gas pedal, and no issues hitting two pedals at once.
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My concern is the proximity of the pedals to the others and having enough room for my feet to function...
Invest in a pair of driving shoes. Seriously.
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Invest in a pair of driving shoes. Seriously.
Seems you've been around awhile, have you tried one of these pedal boxes?


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Why not relocate the factory pedals by either bending the arms, or cutting and welding them with an offset? I've done this on several swaps, and it works great. Just keep in mind if you bend them too much to one side it will change the ratio slightly, so sometimes cutting and extending them to get a "dogleg" in them works better. Arms don't have to be straight to work well.
I have a lot of engine setback in my Falcon with a BBC installed, so I totally lost all the original gas pedal room. I heated and bent both brake and clutch pedals, and made room for my homemade gas pedal. I still had to rework my freshly built trans tunnel with a small indent for the pedal area, as I needed room for the pivot for the gas pedal. As you might notice in this picture, the Falcon has a huge tunnel, but with pedals bent to the left I have room for the gas pedal, and no issues hitting two pedals at once.
Gonna post some pix so ya'll can see what I'm up against. The steering column will also have to be moved as the throttle pedal will need to be where it is now. The pedal hanger is directly above the column and the pedals straddle it. Can't see any way to remove the hanger without compromising it's integrity and any the bends/hacks to the pedals will be severe to say the least. I could leave the scattershield in the engine compartment and just cut for the trans, but that would add extra weight to the front not to mention possible radiator interference. All are options...

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Russ;

What is this car/truck? I forget what you're working on.

I like your idea but I worry about the height of the floor mount box. What about a Hydraboost setup, it might help unclutter things a little on the firewall
Does the floor mount system put the resivoirs under the floor?
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Nate, it's a '63 Rambler American. If I didn't already have the gearbox/clutch/etc, it would be soooo much easier to just stick an auto in there and be done with it. This is the 2nd generation of Americans (61 - 63), the 1st gen (58 - 60) had under-floor pedals, so that "retrofit" is another option to explore. After closer inspection, I don't think moving the pedal hanger will work as it will push the master cylinder into the fender. The Wilwood box masters are all right behind the base of their respective pedals and the whole assembly could be cut into the floor slope, there's nothing behind it but empty wheelwell space.

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I still don't see any reason not to bend, or cut and offset the pedals to the left, using the existing pedals? Seems like it would not only be easier, but a lot cheaper, and will keep the master and clutch linkage in the same location they are now, but make room for the gas pedal.
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I still don't see any reason not to bend, or cut and offset the pedals to the left, using the existing pedals? Seems like it would not only be easier, but a lot cheaper, and will keep the master and clutch linkage in the same location they are now, but make room for the gas pedal.
That's definitely an option, but they'd have to be moved left around 6". I'll prolly try that first, but am not sure how much stress that will put on the offset cuts/welds/bends. Maybe more than I'd feel comfortable with...

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I haven't used Wilwood floor pedals, but it sounds to me like that will be your best bet. After all, there is plenty room in the fenderwell to push into. For a street car I'd want to make a dirt shield to protect the master cylinders under the fender, not really necessary for a drag car. I guess this is a manual shift car, not automatic, since you mentioned "all three pedals".
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