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Hi I just got my frame back from the sandblasters and its pitted I knew it was gonna need work I have talked to a couple of people and they say to use bondo or something similar and other people have told me to use a fiberglass product if anybody has any suggestions that would be great
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Everyday, I see the same thing from you guys. You ask a question without giving any details. We realize you probably know everything there is to know about your project, while we don't know squat. You ask for an opinion without letting go of all the details. Garbage in, garbage out. Good answer by 69widetrack, but the rest of us need more info. |
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sorry about that I'm new and you are right I need to put more info out their for you guys it's a 1929 model going back to all original motor and trans its not going to be a show car just always wanted to restore a car and I got this one cheap on the premises that I restore it hope that helps you help me
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OK thanks for the extra information...I'm currently working on a 1930 Model A Ford and a 1922 Ford Hack/Woody Wagon...Is your 1929 a Ford? Especially if it's a Ford (not that I think Ford is weaker or stronger than any other make, it's just that most of my experience with cars of that era are Ford's) my first recommendation still applies, pay close attention to the area of the frame on the drivers side near the engine...they have a tendency to twist or sag in that area, and would be more prone to twist if you have a major rust or pitting issues.
Hope this helps. Ray |
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If it were me and the pitting wasnt a structural issue(If it is take Ray and techs advise). Id skim the pits with regular body filler first. Block that down then prime with a high build urethaine primer like Clova prime 55 (dont know if you have a cloverdale paint where you are). Then wet block that down with 320 (If you use a guide coat it will tell you when the frame is completely sanded). You can them paint on top of that as long as it is a single stage 320 is fine enough. Be sure if you break through with the urethaine high build primer you need to atleast spot prime with an epoxy/sealer. Not a bad idea to just shoot a coat of epoxy sealer on the hole thing before you paint.
Hope this helps Last edited by prostcelica; 12-19-2012 at 08:58 PM. |
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peteandrepete232 (12-20-2012) | ||
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I say if it is pitted bad enough to box it get another frame! I wouldn't think of boxing a stock cars frame, they work just fine.
How deep are the pits? Really, put a straight edge of over them and see how deep they are. But they would have to be REALLY bad to worry much about it with a stock drive train. Brian |
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peteandrepete232 (12-20-2012) | ||
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At your local paint supplier there is a filler called ALL-METAL Body filler. It is a much more durable filler than the average Bondos. Check it out, it goes on smooth and I believe this will fit your needs perfectly. it is also good for any year vehical.
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A few pictures would be great.
If you are restoring I wouldn't use any filler on the frame. The stock frames twist alot and the filler will likely pop loose over time. Now if you were hot rodding the frame and added boxing plates and maybe a k-member to the frame I'd think the filler would work. |
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The problem with not filling the pits is this. It will look good until it leaves the garage and is driven. If you don't get the frame, and components, slick it is absolutely impossible to wash it and keep it clean. A rough or pitted frame will become an eye sore very quickly and really shows under a restored car that sits high off the ground.
I have never seen body filler, All Metal, or high build primer fail on a properly prepared chassis. Any will work depending on the depth of the pits. I suspect if this is an unrestored car that a body filler over epoxy would be the best and most cost effective. Post some pictures as you go. ![]() John L |
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peteandrepete232 (12-20-2012) | ||
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thanks everyone this has been a BIG help I'll post some pics as soon as I start
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Your more than welcome...if you need any more help or information, especially when you get to the body, (if it is a Ford, you haven't mentioned it yet), you'll find the splash shields just above the running boards to be a week point on the body, there are ways to tighten them up so feel free to ask, I'll help wherever I can...and yes, post pictures.
Good luck Ray |
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Epoxy primer over the metal, then i would skim the frame with a thin coat of some good pklastic filler. Get it smooth, I wouldn't worry too much about it being perfectly straight, just get it looking good.
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