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randyhemi 07-05-2009 06:33 PM

please help identify my ford top loader 4 speed
 
hi hope there is some ford guys out there. i'm cleaning out one of my garages and found trans i think is rare. i can not id it. it has an id tag that reads
RUG-FP CDP
E3UR BA 0007
and on the tailshaft is
rf-d7dr-7ao40-aa
2603665-c h27 l02
with all this info i cant id it.
it has a shifter assembly i have never seen befor the shifter it self is snapped in you just push a tab and it unlocks the shifter handle.
i think its a rare 64-65 fe big block big car trans not sure
please help
Thanks

eloc431962 07-05-2009 06:55 PM

Are you sure you have the correct numbers wrote down the rug #s dont add up. Cole

carsavvycook 07-05-2009 07:26 PM

What is the input shaft diameter, and how many splines?

The E3.... number is generally a 1983 year designation.

eloc431962 07-05-2009 07:39 PM

This is true the E-3 should represent 1983, but from 79-83 the toploader had a aluminum case with single rail shifter. Is the case aluminium? does the shifter push in from the top and have 4 bolts holding it in place? Cole

randyhemi 07-05-2009 07:49 PM

thanks guys!!
the input shaft is 1 1/16 10 spline output is 28 spline. the id tag is RUG-FP clear as day. i can not find fp anywhere on line.

eloc431962 07-05-2009 07:59 PM

Thats a small block trans, but some 390 ran the same trans also. so it still could come from a big block also. I have searched all books and i cant find your numbers anywhere. Cole

randyhemi 07-05-2009 08:41 PM

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im trying to post you pics of it but pics too large.i bought this trans along time ago for a 60 farline i was going to buy that had the hp package. had a 352fe with a 3 speed. the shifter on this top loader is somthing i havent seen before . im going to try to seen pics.
thanks

eloc431962 07-05-2009 08:46 PM

The RUG-FP yep clear as day but i cant find it anywhere either, I have seen that shifter setup but i cant remember what it was right now when it comes to me if you dont already know i will ket you know. surely someone else has seen this setup also maybe they will remember. Cole

randyhemi 07-05-2009 08:56 PM

im not much of a ford guy(have sevral now) but i think this shifter is for a big body car thats why it sticks out so far the shifter bracket has a part number on it D8TA-7400. but the shifter rod itself pushes in and snap locks in all you have to do is push a small rectangal button to release it. is that normal for ford shifters??

carsavvycook 07-05-2009 09:19 PM

D8TA-7400. The D8 designates a 1978 production part.

It makes me think of this being a retro kit for 1978 Mercury Montego, or a full sized type body style.

randyhemi 07-05-2009 10:31 PM

ok, its funny you have a trans with a complet id tag and there is no listing for it.
thanks to you all. i cleaned out one of my garage and forgot about this trans it was in the very back covered up with early hemi parts that i forgot about too. :D

ProTracGear 07-06-2009 12:23 AM

its a RUG plain and simple. thats what i have it listed as in my parts book as well
i will chevk on input splines tomorow as to further narow what it fits i know they did use it in some old ford vans and trucks as well. it is a transmission i dont see around to often.

eloc431962 07-06-2009 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randyhemi
thanks guys!!
the input shaft is 1 1/16 10 spline output is 28 spline. the id tag is RUG-FP clear as day. i can not find fp anywhere on line.

There is no doubt it is a RUG trans. But the input shaft being 1 1/16 10 spline and the output being 28 spline, is telling me it is for a small block ford, but as i said in my other post some big blocks had the 28 spline output also most was 31 but some did run the 28 spline, if i remember correct they were in 64/65 Galaxy . Cole

carsavvycook 07-06-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eloc431962
There is no doubt it is a RUG trans. But the input shaft being 1 1/16 10 spline and the output being 28 spline, is telling me it is for a small block ford, but as i said in my other post some big blocks had the 28 spline output also most was 31 but some did run the 28 spline, if i remember correct they were in 64/65 Galaxy . Cole

Carefull Cole, You might just give up your age. LOL

In 1965. I was 9 years old, and used my paper route savings to purchase a 1963 Buick LeSabre my mother fell in love with. To make a long story short, I made that used car salesman hand the keys to my mother, who was sitting, very "distraught"(crying is a more accurate word), in the rusted out chevy my parents owned, at the time.

randyhemi 07-06-2009 08:57 PM

nice story! love those buicks. did it have the 401 and dynaflow?

i found some info 64-65 used a 25 spline that snapped so they went with a 28 spline in 66. my case is 24" so it must be a fairlane,galaxy,or a murador due to the offset of the shifter for bigger body style, my best guess.
Thanks for all the help!!!!!!
Randy


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