please help identify my ford top loader 4 speed - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Transmission - Rearend
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 05:33 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
please help identify my ford top loader 4 speed

hi hope there is some ford guys out there. i'm cleaning out one of my garages and found trans i think is rare. i can not id it. it has an id tag that reads
RUG-FP CDP
E3UR BA 0007
and on the tailshaft is
rf-d7dr-7ao40-aa
2603665-c h27 l02
with all this info i cant id it.
it has a shifter assembly i have never seen befor the shifter it self is snapped in you just push a tab and it unlocks the shifter handle.
i think its a rare 64-65 fe big block big car trans not sure
please help
Thanks

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 05:55 PM
eloc431962's Avatar
Evil Wicked Mean And Nasty
 
Last wiki edit: Pilot bearing and bushings
Last journal entry: roof repair
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: back in the garage.
Posts: 13,762
Wiki Edits: 37

Thanks: 50
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Are you sure you have the correct numbers wrote down the rug #s dont add up. Cole
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 06:26 PM
carsavvycook's Avatar
My 2 cents worth
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lakeside, CA
Age: 57
Posts: 2,855
Wiki Edits: 3

Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
What is the input shaft diameter, and how many splines?

The E3.... number is generally a 1983 year designation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 06:39 PM
eloc431962's Avatar
Evil Wicked Mean And Nasty
 
Last wiki edit: Pilot bearing and bushings
Last journal entry: roof repair
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: back in the garage.
Posts: 13,762
Wiki Edits: 37

Thanks: 50
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
This is true the E-3 should represent 1983, but from 79-83 the toploader had a aluminum case with single rail shifter. Is the case aluminium? does the shifter push in from the top and have 4 bolts holding it in place? Cole
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
thanks guys!!
the input shaft is 1 1/16 10 spline output is 28 spline. the id tag is RUG-FP clear as day. i can not find fp anywhere on line.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 06:59 PM
eloc431962's Avatar
Evil Wicked Mean And Nasty
 
Last wiki edit: Pilot bearing and bushings
Last journal entry: roof repair
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: back in the garage.
Posts: 13,762
Wiki Edits: 37

Thanks: 50
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Thats a small block trans, but some 390 ran the same trans also. so it still could come from a big block also. I have searched all books and i cant find your numbers anywhere. Cole
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
im trying to post you pics of it but pics too large.i bought this trans along time ago for a 60 farline i was going to buy that had the hp package. had a 352fe with a 3 speed. the shifter on this top loader is somthing i havent seen before . im going to try to seen pics.
thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	selling items (Small).jpg
Views:	235
Size:	55.4 KB
ID:	39243   Click image for larger version

Name:	selling items 149 (Small).jpg
Views:	232
Size:	21.2 KB
ID:	39244   Click image for larger version

Name:	selling items 120 (Small).jpg
Views:	244
Size:	51.7 KB
ID:	39245   Click image for larger version

Name:	selling items 121 (Small).jpg
Views:	284
Size:	61.0 KB
ID:	39246  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 07:46 PM
eloc431962's Avatar
Evil Wicked Mean And Nasty
 
Last wiki edit: Pilot bearing and bushings
Last journal entry: roof repair
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: back in the garage.
Posts: 13,762
Wiki Edits: 37

Thanks: 50
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
The RUG-FP yep clear as day but i cant find it anywhere either, I have seen that shifter setup but i cant remember what it was right now when it comes to me if you dont already know i will ket you know. surely someone else has seen this setup also maybe they will remember. Cole
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 07:56 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
im not much of a ford guy(have sevral now) but i think this shifter is for a big body car thats why it sticks out so far the shifter bracket has a part number on it D8TA-7400. but the shifter rod itself pushes in and snap locks in all you have to do is push a small rectangal button to release it. is that normal for ford shifters??
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 08:19 PM
carsavvycook's Avatar
My 2 cents worth
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lakeside, CA
Age: 57
Posts: 2,855
Wiki Edits: 3

Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
D8TA-7400. The D8 designates a 1978 production part.

It makes me think of this being a retro kit for 1978 Mercury Montego, or a full sized type body style.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 09:31 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
ok, its funny you have a trans with a complet id tag and there is no listing for it.
thanks to you all. i cleaned out one of my garage and forgot about this trans it was in the very back covered up with early hemi parts that i forgot about too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 07-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 40
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
its a RUG plain and simple. thats what i have it listed as in my parts book as well
i will chevk on input splines tomorow as to further narow what it fits i know they did use it in some old ford vans and trucks as well. it is a transmission i dont see around to often.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 07-06-2009, 06:23 PM
eloc431962's Avatar
Evil Wicked Mean And Nasty
 
Last wiki edit: Pilot bearing and bushings
Last journal entry: roof repair
Last photo:
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: back in the garage.
Posts: 13,762
Wiki Edits: 37

Thanks: 50
Thanked 28 Times in 24 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by randyhemi
thanks guys!!
the input shaft is 1 1/16 10 spline output is 28 spline. the id tag is RUG-FP clear as day. i can not find fp anywhere on line.
There is no doubt it is a RUG trans. But the input shaft being 1 1/16 10 spline and the output being 28 spline, is telling me it is for a small block ford, but as i said in my other post some big blocks had the 28 spline output also most was 31 but some did run the 28 spline, if i remember correct they were in 64/65 Galaxy . Cole
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 07-06-2009, 06:38 PM
carsavvycook's Avatar
My 2 cents worth
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lakeside, CA
Age: 57
Posts: 2,855
Wiki Edits: 3

Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by eloc431962
There is no doubt it is a RUG trans. But the input shaft being 1 1/16 10 spline and the output being 28 spline, is telling me it is for a small block ford, but as i said in my other post some big blocks had the 28 spline output also most was 31 but some did run the 28 spline, if i remember correct they were in 64/65 Galaxy . Cole
Carefull Cole, You might just give up your age. LOL

In 1965. I was 9 years old, and used my paper route savings to purchase a 1963 Buick LeSabre my mother fell in love with. To make a long story short, I made that used car salesman hand the keys to my mother, who was sitting, very "distraught"(crying is a more accurate word), in the rusted out chevy my parents owned, at the time.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 07-06-2009, 07:57 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Santa Rosa,Ca
Posts: 55
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
nice story! love those buicks. did it have the 401 and dynaflow?

i found some info 64-65 used a 25 spline that snapped so they went with a 28 spline in 66. my case is 24" so it must be a fairlane,galaxy,or a murador due to the offset of the shifter for bigger body style, my best guess.
Thanks for all the help!!!!!!
Randy
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Transmission - Rearend posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
List all of your cars HERE! Carbed95GT Hotrodders' Lounge 289 11-09-2011 06:43 PM
Identify this Ford Rearend. 31fordcoupe Transmission - Rearend 19 12-07-2008 03:32 PM
can anyone help me identify this ford tranny DaSouthWon Transmission - Rearend 7 07-17-2008 02:30 AM
Shorty Ford C6 3 Speed oldschoolarg Transmission - Rearend 3 04-24-2008 09:42 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:45 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.