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Pls help identify a carter carburetor...

I am selling my 03 quad Ram to give me more monthly funds for my TA build. That means I have to get my 71 D100 up and running to replace it. It has a 318 motor but judging by the hack job done on the wiring the motor has been replaced at some point in the past. It runs but badly, and I am considering a advance auto rebuilt motor in a month or so. Till then I need to rebuild this carb on it.

Unfortunately no one locally can seem to identify it since I do not know where the 318 motor came from. (When did part stores, start hiring young kids who know absolutely nothing about cars? No joke! I set the carb on the counter and told the guy I needed a rebuild kit for it and he asked ME what it was!!!!) It is a 2 barrel Carter carb, and the tag on top is missing. There are 3 numbers on it which must be p/n's for the piece because they do not cross reference.

The Horn (top) has: 6-2182
The bowls (middle) has: MFD by Carter 0-2378
The butterfly's (bottom) has 2385

Can someone help me identify this carb so I can get a rebuild kit for it?

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I have an older "MOTOR" auto repair manual from 1975 that has a section on Carter carbs-and it shows most common 2barrel model used by Chrysler corp from 69-75 was the "BBD" model. It had variations depending exact motor it was being used on/specific emissions package/etc.
They show a 1-1/4" bore and a 1-1/2" bore version. Other 2 barrel models listed for same time period were shown as being utilized on AMC '69-'70("WCD") and Pontiac '72 ("WGD"). Dont' know how much help, if any, this gives you- but I hope it does get you a start. PS; BBD model#'s shown for Mopars 1971 m.y. were as follows; 4957S,#4958S,#4961S, and #4962S.

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Thanks for the reply!

Well I have 1 1/4 bores..... I'll write down the BBD and see if that helps them. They say most of the carb's in the 70's had model #'s in the 4000 range.
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Just to make you aware, the 4 model #'s given were as to car and not truck application, as the MOTOR manual published separate manual for trucks, so carb #'s given MAY OR MAY NOT BE CORRECT for truck(s). I didn't realize or notice this until I went to specific section for Chrysler - Dodge - Plymouth. However it is still possible that one of those #'s may be correct.
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Where are the motor ID numbers on a 318? maybe if I can identify what year and model the motor came out of I can ID the carb.....
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I just logged back on and saw your request. Fortunately, I still have Motor manual open to that section (C/D/P);and it says for 69-75 V-8 273,318,340,360 engine number location is left front of block below cylinder head. Engine Identification Code : "69-75 engines are identified by the cubic inch displacement found within the engine number stamped on the pad". Hope this helps you.
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Oh,by the way; the 1-1/4" bore size of carbs throttle bores is consistent with smaller v-8's (273/318- as the Carter carb. section references that the 1-1/2" bore carbs were "used on larger v-8's" (probably meaning 360/383/400) Not sure about 340's but I don't recall them EVER putting 340's into truck, at least from factory. I would not doubt that your 71 p/u may have come from and possibly still have original 318, as they were very common. 400 didn't come out until '71, and only on full-size Chrysler and Imperial for '71. Began using in Dodge and Plymouth nameplate in '72. 273 ended w/'69 m.y.,and 360 began in Dodge and Plymouth in '71 and only w/2bbl.71-73. This should help you narrow it down more, but I'd surmise that it probably is a 318 w/ factory 1-1/4" throttle bore BBD. As previously mentioned my Motor manual is from 1975 and shows BBD listed as used by Chrysler corp. all years 69-75.
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Thank you all! You've been very helpful. I'm almost positive this is a 318 but I doubt it is the original 318. The reason I say that is the wires and all are cut and hacked together making it look like the motor was replaced at some time. I'll try to identify the block tomorrow and maybe that will help me identify the carb.

Thanks again for the research!
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Have a look on the throttle body (mounting flange).
It seems to me that some Carter's (4bbl ?) used to have the ID # stamped in there. As previously mentioned ... I think it should be 5 characters (4 numbers and a letter, beginning with a "4".

Check that ... It looks like the Carter 2 bbl's (BBD) may have started with an "8"

1975 Dodge Dart, 318 ...


Quote:
Carburetor Kit
MPF 31586 $16.99


w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor # 8000, 8003, 8068, 8070, 8071, 8072, 8079, 8109, 8001, 8062, 8064, 8066, 8069, 8076, 8077, 8099, 8100, 8006, 8007 w/ Carburetor # BBD

Carburetor Kit
CRB
25870A $26.49


Export w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 8007




Carburetor Kit
CRB
25870A $26.49


Except California Emissions w/ Manual Transmission w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 8000, 8071




Carburetor Kit
CRB
25870A $26.49


w/ Manual Transmission w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 8006, 8066




Carburetor Kit
CRB
25870A $26.49


Except Export w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 8001, 8003, 8062, 8064, 8069, 8070, 8076, 8077, 8079, 8099, 8100, 8109

You'll notice that there are 2 different "Product line codes" that NAPA is using here ... "MPF" and "CRB" meaning that they have 2 different suppliers that provide them with the kits. The "MPF" supplier lists only one kit for a multitude of tag #'s.

Now have a look at the part number for all of the kits offered in the "CRB" product line. Again, ALL of the various tag#'s also use the same "25870A" kit ... which tells me that a BBD kit is pretty generic.


I also checked a 1977 D100 pickup with a 318 and a Carter 2 bbl ... same result, same part number.

I was afraid to check anything newer as they went to that "Lean Burn" system in about 1979 or so.
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WOW good info! I tried autozone, advanced and o Riley's and could not find anything as detailed as that

On the underside of the base stamped in a separate flange next to the throttle spring, is the code 2385 but I haven't been able to find anything else besides the #'s listed in the beginning.

So 4 barrels started with 4### is that correct? Cause this is a 2 barrel and the 2385 would at least sound correct.

Guess I can pick up the BBD kit and pray Those gaskets do look almost the same.
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IF this manual is correct; the 8000 numbers started with 75 model year (800s,8001s-8003s,8062s/64s/66s) All listings 69-71 were 4000 #'s, 72-74 were 6000 #'s. If you find that it falls within this range I could give you adjustment specs-with few exceptions they're all fairly similar. Also; on previous post I mentioned "not sure about 340" -MY BAD-they only came with 4 barrel or 6 pack from the factory, and I couldn't imagine someone suffocating one with a small 2 barrel OR putting in a p/u, so most likely its a 318. Good little motor though. Like the slant 6 they'll run practically forever if taken care of. Let me know what you find tomorrow, and we'll try to give as much help as possible. Gives me a reason to stay inside where it's cool!
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IF this manual is correct; the 8000 numbers started with 75 model year (800s,8001s-8003s,8062s/64s/66s) All listings 69-71 were 4000 #'s, 72-74 were 6000 #'s. If you find that it falls within this range I could give you adjustment specs-with few exceptions they're all fairly similar. Also; on previous post I mentioned "not sure about 340" -MY BAD-they only came with 4 barrel or 6 pack from the factory, and I couldn't imagine someone suffocating one with a small 2 barrel OR putting in a p/u, so most likely its a 318. Good little motor though. Like the slant 6 they'll run practically forever if taken care of. Let me know what you find tomorrow, and we'll try to give as much help as possible. Gives me a reason to stay inside where it's cool!
OK ... for the 1971 D100:

Carburetor Kit
CRB
25545A $21.49


w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 4723, 4724, 4819, 4820, 4957

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Carburetor Kit
CRB
25480A $17.49

(exact same picture)

w/ Carter Carburetor w/ Carburetor Type: C-2 w/ Carburetor # 4721, 4722, 4821, 4822, 4823, 4824, 4825, 4826, 4827, 6031, 6169
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So 4 barrels started with 4### is that correct? Cause this is a 2 barrel and the 2385 would at least sound correct.
I didn't catch this last nite,but...No. All of the carb.#'s I listed last nite were for BBD 2-barrel. I didn't even look into the 4-barrel(s) section for Carter (AVS/AFB/TQ) due to the fact that we were already certain it's a BBD 2-barrel.
As you can see from #'s given, there is no connection.
Hope this clarifies...
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After many hours of research, i have found the kit that i think is needed for your carb, I have the same carb on my truck. it is a carter BBD, Autozone kit number 96-578. They also sell another kit for the carter. tell them you have an 84 dodge truck with a 318 2brl. and they can bring it up for you.
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