[rlackey]

It seems most people prefer manual transmissions, I have to agree. I have never even driven an automatic, every car I have ever owned, borrowed or driven for any reason has been a stick shift.

Automatics have thier place though, and my '54 Chevy currently has a Powerglide, unless I can find a manual box readily available here in South Africa that will put up with a 327ci small block, the Powerglide will stay. The Chevy is the first automatic I have ever owned.

Rich

[daimon1054]

On the track the man no doubt but on the street I have gotten to the point in life where I don't want to fight trafic pumping a clutch.

[streetfytr68]

Originally Posted by x007

......at first looking to buy a "full manual" 4l80, but what i have learned whorth the time spend, i have ended whit a 4l80E (electronics) whit a compushift (computer controler for the trans), I just can't tell how this tranmission is incredible... I have the display adapter (Lcd screen) in my car that display a buntch of trans parameter an can program the pressure of the shift as well as RPM shift and lot of other functions... This trans can be used in manual mode (you shift) or in automatic mode (computer shift) as well as using on demand two "shift Button" to upshift/downshift (may be on the sterring ). But hey ! Just think about this...
You drive whit the overdrive 4L80E on the street in standard mode programming for the trans, you drive to the dragstrip then use the display to program more presure on the shift to have firmer shift & set a 5800RPM limit to shift the gear ! Thats Year 2000
May be the more costly option, but i think its the best
my 2c.

He hit the nail on the head. The line between manual and auto is becoming blurred. Many new cars offer manumatic shifting. Don't knock it til you try it. Go test drive a ne Chrysler 300C or Pontia Grand Prix (or better yet Porsche with Tiptronic). An electric shifter is connected directly to the shift solenoids which are controlled by computers. The mechanical shifter, cable, detent are bypassed. Old school fluid flow circuits are replaced by digital circuits so no more slushbox. Computers for your hot rod are available from Compushift, TCI and Powertrain Control Solutions. You need an electronically controlled transmission.

Works great and is a ton of fun!! Picture yourself steering and shifting at the same time--especially when the rear tires have broken loose.

But I am biased: I invented a paddle shifter that helps hot rodders take advantage of the technology. You will find a link in my profile.

[x007]

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

He hit the nail on the head. The line between manual and auto is becoming blurred. Many new cars offer manumatic shifting. Don't knock it til you try it. Go test drive a ne Chrysler 300C or Pontia Grand Prix (or better yet Porsche with Tiptronic). An electric shifter is connected directly to the shift solenoids which are controlled by computers. The mechanical shifter, cable, detent are bypassed. Old school fluid flow circuits are replaced by digital circuits so no more slushbox. Computers for your hot rod are available from Compushift, TCI and Powertrain Control Solutions. You need an electronically controlled transmission.

Works great and is a ton of fun!! Picture yourself steering and shifting at the same time--especially when the rear tires have broken loose.

But I am biased: I invented a paddle shifter that helps hot rodders take advantage of the technology. You will find a link in my profile.

Hi steve, Hey you have what i miss
Is your adapter will fit on GRANT GT wheels, not sure how mutch bolt i have, have to check...?

btw, Anyway to have a Rebate on your fitting ?

[streetfytr68]

X,
I will answer technical questions, but I don;t want to abuse the forum by getting into sales questions, so please email me with any questions about money (not sure what you mean by rebate??)

Your Grant GT wheel is a 5 bolt. Should work just fine with the adapter ring.

[chevman32]

Originally Posted by bracketeer

Standard trannys are great in a Honda Civic. Save you tons on fuel. They are a serious disadvantage at the drag strip. Tranny brake on an automatic will take you out 7 out of 10 times. And a delay box will send you home 9 out of 10 times.

I have done a lot of drag racing, have a bunch of trophies won by beating automatics with my std. shift. Your reflexes are what wins races at the line, not electronics. I'll take a stick EVERY time!!!!!!

[x007]

will contact you soon on your website.. Just waiting to have some money

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

X,
I will answer technical questions, but I don;t want to abuse the forum by getting into sales questions, so please email me with any questions about money (not sure what you mean by rebate??)

Your Grant GT wheel is a 5 bolt. Should work just fine with the adapter ring.

[streetfytr68]

Originally Posted by chevman32

I have done a lot of drag racing, have a bunch of trophies won by beating automatics with my std. shift. Your reflexes are what wins races at the line, not electronics. I'll take a stick EVERY time!!!!!!

Okay. You have good reaction times. To me, that just means that if we put you in two otherwise identical cars--one manual, one auto--you would win with the auto. For the most part, the physical shift time required for a gear change in a manual transmission is greater in duration. It just plain takes longer to change gears manipulate the clutch and row that gear lever.

Thank you 007.

[pro70z28]

Originally Posted by streetfytr68

Okay. You have good reaction times. To me, that just means that if we put you in two otherwise identical cars--one manual, one auto--you would win with the auto. For the most part, the physical shift time required for a gear change in a manual transmission is greater in duration. It just plain takes longer to change gears manipulate the clutch and row that gear lever.

Thank you 007.

That's proven by the gap in the black marks on the road between gears. That gap represents "no power to the wheels". I usta' have a 4 spd. with a vertical gate shifter. I would shift with the go pedal to the floor. The tach would jump less than 1,000 rpm between shifts. (Hilborn injected 331 Chevy, very quick rev.). And I still couldn't do that shift without a gap between the gears. The only manual shifter that can is a lenco, G-force or similar trans.
But on the flip side it sure was fun to drive.

[18-FEVR]

I have a B&M Quick Silver shifter in
my Nova with a 350 TH tranny.

I love it, especially with the
line lock. You wouldn't believe
how I can lifgt those rear tires
up with this combination.

I'm not real popular with the
local police here.

Imagine that.

[Grusome Goat]

I have been strictly a 4 speed man since I started racing them in 77. Sure they're harder on parts and drivetrains but alot more fun and can run constant if you can duplicate about every run you make.

[machine shop tom]

4 speed. Muncie.

Automatics are for wimmin'.



tom

[smallblocker2]

Manual all the way. It aint a hot rod unless you shift with a clutch. As for being faster, ya down a striaght line, auto's faster, woopie! I've still seen 6spd's do high 6's, and what are top fuelies runnin' eh? as for efficciency, a 6spd. will still get better mileage than your best lockup auto. Auto's are for lazy people who drive their civics to work everyday while their hot rods sit in the garage at home. In fact, my 327 5spd S10 is sittin' at home, and I'm takin' the bus, because I blew my 3rd clutch and my 1-2 sychro, and I'll walk before I'd put an auto in it!

Just my 2c$

[smallblocker2]

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[streetfytr68]

Originally Posted by smallblocker2

Maybe I'll ask the question 1 more time for ya'll,
What are the top fuelies runnin' eh!!!!!?

or nascar?
or touring car?
F1?
the Harley in your garage?

-T/F cars are direct drive. No trans at all. Instead, a multi-stage lock up clutch is actuated by timers.
-NASCAR? Many divisions. I asume you mean Nextel Cup. Old school 4-speed manuals. But they rarely shift (3-4 races per year) Shifting is used to get the car up to speed and then they leave it in 4th gear.
-Touring Car. Very trick sequential gear boxes. No clutch really. Much like hig end racing motorcycles.
-F1: Robotically controlled manual transmissions. A computer controls mechanical arms (robotics) that duplicate the clutch-in/clutch-out and gear change. Driver just taps paddle shifter or other electric switches and the computer does the rest.

And the Harley in my Garage? Is a V-Rod. Sequential 5 speed.

So there are many ways to skin the cat. Some classes of racing like Nextel Cup enforce specific regulations to cap costs or create parity.