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Old 07-26-2010, 04:53 PM
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May be more weight difference than that. The HardTop doors had extra bracing aswell. I have a 64 HTop and a 64 Sedan Post Chevelle, the doors are very light on the Sedan and the HTop doors feel like they have lead inside.
Go to ultimate gto.com and look in the stats and it will give you weight and production and all that

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Im actually leaning toward the 326 (which we all know is about ten cubes bigger than advertised) and a 4 speed!
The '63 326 was the only one that was actually about 10 cu. in. larger than stated by Pontiac.
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thats right creech. and there is no such thingas a big block pontiac. All pontiac blocks are the same external dimension
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i believe that when the first 326 came out it actually came out to 336ci. I could be wrong but I rememjber that from several sources back in the day. There was some corporate decision to "under estimate it." Just what I heard.
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wdcreech, I guess I stand corrected on making it a blanket statement! Like I said it was a long time ago......
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1964 big pontiacs used the starter that bolted to the roto-hydra matic( slim jim) trans. The A body or lemans tempest gto use a super turd 300 ( Powerglide) and the starter bolted to the block. Watch for that cause ive seen it to be true more times than not.big pontiacs used the slim jim. In 64 the turbo 400 was created and became the big car trans. Although some 64 to early 65 used the slim jim untill depleted inventory. Also the 64 heads and intake have a slight difference for the intake bolt pattern and 65 up will interchange. A lot of things happening in that short time span

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1964 big pontiacs used the starter that bolted to the roto-hydra matic( slim jim) trans. The A body or lemans tempest gto use a super turd 300 ( Powerglide) and the starter bolted to the block. Watch for that cause ive seen it to be true more times than not.big pontioacs used the slim jim. In 65 the turbo 400 was created and became the big car trans. Although some early 65 used the slim jim untill depleted inventory. Also the 64 heads and intake have a slight difference for the intake bolt pattern and 65 up will interchange. A lot of things happening in that short time span
latech, I've read that in '64, only the GTO 389 and all 421s used the block mounted starter. The Super Turbine 300 was similar to, but was not a Powerglide, although they did have only two speeds. The B bodies used both Slim Jims and Super Hydramatics, depending on the model.

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would that mean that the 326 would have had a bell mounted starter?
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I just looked at a super turbine 300 at it did not show bolt hole for a starter. My original lemans I owned in the 70s had a block mounted starter but I dont know ( cause I was young and dumb (er) ) then if that was the original engine.
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i had thought that I sorted through that question but obviously I have more to learn. I need to . I own one LOL
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Go to ultimate gto.com and look in the stats and it will give you weight and production and all that
20lbs. looks correct.
64Chevelle weights are close @30lbs.= Sedan 3100lbs., Htop 3130lbs., SS Htop 3155lbs.
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non gto

here is a 1963 tempest that sold for a quarter of a mil. like to see a gto sell for that much.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2133255/posts



please to also point out its a coupe'.
coupes have better window fit and are quiter

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