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Singh's Grooves in Ported & Milled vortec heads on stock 350
I am porting a set of 062 Vortec heads for an otherwise stock (including fuel injection) 97’ 350 in a 4 wheel drive pick-up. I will be milling the heads to assure the surface is true.
My question is can I mill the heads to raise the compression to further improve performance with out detonation? If so what’s a safe amount to mill? ![]() ![]() ![]() Last edited by automotive breath : 11-21-2006 at 04:39 PM. |
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Vortec heads are very thin GM castings and I will not mill them more than .010 which is approx 1.5 cc from the combustion chamber. I have seen them milled .020 or more. They tend to crack across the center deck.
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i will agree that they are thin. i wouldn't mill anything, unless it is needed.
it looks like you did a good job porting. |
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Thanks,
I measured the head deck thickness to be 0.275", this appears to be thick enough to allow milling. I’m interested in raising the compression with in the detonation limits; I can’t find specifications on the engine’s stock compression ratio or camshaft specs to calculate dynamic compression ratio. |
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my engine, stock, is 9.2-1. i would expect your to be the same.
cam, i can't say on the specs. but i do know they are pretty mild. |
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The engine is still running so I estimated some of the numbers to come up with this:
Cylinder Head Volume (cc) 64 Piston Head Volume (cc) 10 Gasket Thickness (in.) 0.026 Gasket Bore (in.) 4.166 Cylinder Bore Diameter (in.) 4.0 Deck Clearance (in.) 0.030 Stroke (in.) 3.48 STATIC COMPRESSION RATIO 9.3:1 You think I can bump it up to 10:1 with the stock camshaft? With a 0.040" mill at 1.5 cc per 0.010" Cylinder Head Volume (cc) 58 Piston Head Volume (cc) 10 Gasket Thickness (in.) 0.026 Gasket Bore (in.) 4.166 Cylinder Bore Diameter (in.) 4.0 Deck Clearance (in.) 0.030 Stroke (in.) 3.48 STATIC COMPRESSION RATIO 9.96:1 Last edited by automotive breath : 11-15-2006 at 08:46 PM. |
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your asking the wrong guy about that. i have a vortech blower on mine, so i don't need any more static compression. do you plan to use 93 octane ?
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Then don't raise it. Its on the edge as it is using the stock knock sensors and EFI. I'd not raise it unless you plan on more octane. The polished chambers will help, but not much more than .1 or .2 additional.
Polished chambers might have added a cc or two and a clean up milling will probably take you back to stock CR. Sounds good to me. |
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If I were you I'd cc each chamber to make sure its 64cc. I had my vortecs decked .010 and they measured 65.5cc. also I'd cc the pistons as well. I wouldnt mill the heads any more than I absolutly had to. The 062 casting is better than the 906 casting but they still crack easily. I would have the block zero decked or at least decked enough to make up the difference in compression.
I used a set of KB 120 KiethBlack pistons 7cc 2vr the heads measured 65.5cc deck ht is .015 4.30 bore headgasket thickness .015 with a 4.100 bore felpro embossed shim this gave me a static compression of 10.22 |
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I haven’t CCed the heads but I will do so before and after milling. The short block is not coming out. During the holidays it just a head swap. I can adjust piston to head clearance with gasket thickness.
Yours does OK at 10.2:1? What camshaft and fuel? |
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Your thinking maybe 9.4:1 maybe 9.5:1 max. I supose I could put it on a scan gauge and check for knock retard before I cut anything. |
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My 906 Vortecs (uncut) are advertised at 64, but actually measured out to 62.5 or so. Tolerances from what I understand range from 61 to 66. Measure twice, cut once
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If I were you I would step the compression up to about 9.5:1 and run high ratio rockers and consider a more agressive cam. It looks like you did a fairly good job of porting, but its all in vain without lift numbers to match.
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