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Old 07-13-2008, 09:08 PM
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possible 327 build

I am possibly going to rebuild a 327 sbc. Being 67 i think it is small journal so not sure if it's even worth building. Is it better to get fastburn heads and stroker kit or get newer 350 with one piece rear main to build if 327 indeed is small journal?
i am on tight budget so low buck performance and as much reliability as possible is what i'm going for.
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Absolutely NOTHING wrong with a small jrnl. 327!!! probably a forged crank.....build it!! you'll be glad you did. Now....since it is that old and most likely been gone through before, take it to a GOOD machine shop and have them check the block, crank and rods to see if it is in fact rebuildable. If it is consider yourself lucky and build it according to the application you will be using it.
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is there a sure way to tell without opening it up if it is small journal? I think they switched to larger in the middle of 67. Also would a stroker kit and vortec heads with mild cam be the best for performance upgrades?
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A stroker kit would just be a 350 . And no this would not be the best bang for your buck because they don't make small journal stroker kits.

Do a solid stock rebuild of the bottom end. Then get a good set of heads with the money you didn't spend on the stroker kit. Camshafts can be had very cheaply, find a used carb and intake and get a decent distributor and you will have plenty of power on a tight budget.
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is there a sure way to tell without opening it up if it is small journal? I think they switched to larger in the middle of 67. Also would a stroker kit and vortec heads with mild cam be the best for performance upgrades?
You'll have to at least drop the oilpan or look at the rear crank flange if possible to tell which crank you have.
http://www.chevytech.com/2c50o4.html
Depends on what/how much performance you want/need.
More Info.
http://www.chevytech.com/2c50.html
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http://www.chevytech.com/2c000.html

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Getting a 5.7 (350) roller/Vortec engine from a salvage yard and adding a good intake and distributor might be the best way to go.

New blocks usually have little wear, you'd have good heads, roller cam for later upgrades. Reasonable power and efficiency for less than a grand, maybe.
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if you are on a budget then just rebuild the engine you already have. sure a 350 or 383 will make more power but that will cost more money.

what car is this going in? what gear ratio?, what transmission? Is this a daily driver? mpg important?

do you have a complete 327? intake, carb, ignition, timing chain, pulleys, brackets, balancer, flywheel, ect?? If your engine is not complete, those little things add up quickly. So, it is much cheaper to start out with a complete engine.
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engine is complete and is in 67 camaro. Trans i think is powerglide wich will have to go eventually. It's not a daily driver and just to drive out on weekends. Currently it doesn't run and i am going to at least get it started.(Mice chewd up the wires)
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Check the back of the block, near the distributor hole. If there is another hole about the size of the distributor hole, or if the intake is off you can look at the rear of the lifter vally for a metal can that is stuck into a hole against the rear wall. If present, it's most likely a small journal block.
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Speed-O-Motive makes a small journal stroker kit to turn a 327 into a 383, for those of you into small journal engines.
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Yes, get it running first. It may not need a rebuild.

If the engine already runs well. Then the biggest bang for the buck would be some more gears in the transmission and differential. A 2 spd 327 car will be school bus slow.

Get a th350 transmission, 2500 stall, and a 3.55 gear.

Or use a wide ratio 4 spd with a 3.08 or 2.73 gear

or a close ratio with a 3.73 or 4.11 gear with 10:1 cr and a 230 degree cam.

Furthermore, headers and dual exhaust are key to cheap and reliable HP.
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i did found the stroker kit from spedomotive:
http://www.speedomotive.com/ps-30-8-...3-cid-kit.aspx
Not sure if it's worth the price.
For time being i guess like recommended i first will make sure engine is rebuildable.
What's the tool called to prime the oil? This will be first start in a while for this motor. Supposed to be running when parked. It does turn so it's not locked up.
I can't get a good look behind it to see if there is another hole on the block. I will get some pictures posted as i have some question regarding some wires and hoses that been messed up.
Thanks for all the help
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A 383 with a 2 speed will be slower than a 327 with a 3 speed or 4 speed. Try spending your money on a transmission first. If the motor ran ok before it was shut off, it can be put back into good running condition for very little money. Might only need gaskets and a valve job.

That 383 kit would make too much compression ratio for 64cc heads. You will need D-shaped dishes pistons. Don't forget the cost for a 383 balancer and flywheel (they are different than a 327 or 350). If you plan on a mild cam for good street manors and good mpg then build a 9:1 cr engine.
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I started on cleaning some stuff up and it looks like car used to have a manual.
Also i took some pictures of the motor and it's missing some kind of linkage for the carb. Also there are two hoses from the valve cover breather holes but both just hang in the engine bay not connected to anything. Where should they go? If the block is rebuildable i probably will do just a simple rebuild with a cam and maybe better heads.



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You don't have a glide that is a turbo 350 kickdown cable hooked to the carb.The hose from the drivers side valve coverf is the pcv valve , hook it to the large blocked vac port on the front of the carb.The hose on the other side would go to the air cleaner to provide filtered air for the pcv system.
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