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Old 06-17-2011, 09:23 AM
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Possible frame alternative for 51 Chevy 3100

Ok, I am not sure if what I am wanting to do is feasible or not. I have seen all kinds of stuff on an S10 frame swap and even a few things on a C10 swap, although it is discouraged. So here is my idea: I have a 1993 Nissan 240SX. I am wanting to get a gen I truck (plenty around here) and do a frame swap with the 240. I would have disc brakes all around, rack and pinion up front and independent rear suspension. I know the front should be able to handle the weight due to numerous LS1 swaps into 240s. So I'll give y'all the specs I know on the 240 and ask for advice.

Wheelbase: 97.4 in. (I know I'll have to lengthen)
Front/Rear Track: 57.7 in./57.5 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.3 in.
Curb Weight : 2684 lbs./2657 lbs.

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So I'll give y'all the specs I know on the 240 and ask for advice.
Here's some advice. Look under the 240SX and tell us if you see a real frame or not.
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Ok so "swap" is used figuratively. I see rails on the front that could be welded to the stock frame like a mustang II kit.
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Ok so "swap" is used figuratively. I see rails on the front that could be welded to the stock frame like a mustang II kit.
Now go out an look again. Note how the top of the struts attaches to the inner fenders. That's called a Macpherson strut-type front suspension.

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So.... what your saying is, take the 240 to the salvage yard and swap it for a S10 roller.
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So.... what your saying is, take the 240 to the salvage yard and swap it for a S10 roller.
All I'm saying is that the 240SX is not really your best choice here.
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Gotcha. Looking around on the web so now I have another question. I can't find any info on the dimensions for a 4100 series truck. I know the wheelbases but I cant find the width. could you put a 4100 on a 85 C10 frame? Just from pics the cab on the 4100 appears bigger than that of a 3100 or 3600.
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All the 3000, 4000, and 6000 trucks use the same cab. The 4000 and 6000 series trucks have different hood, front fenders, and grille.
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Take a detour over to www.stovebolt.com, if you haven't already. The people over there are very knowledgeable about the technical stuff on these old pickups.

But don't be surprised if they try to talk you out of a frame swap.
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95 out of 100 times ... the original frame is the BEST frame for a project.

Even just changing frames with a exact same type frame is a lot of work ... getting everything aligned and fitting. Add in the fact that the frame is not the right one only magnifies the issues by 10.

Just adapt a decent rear end and some front suspension and brake upgrades and call it done.

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GO here ... for a online tutorial on the difficulty of what you are thinking about. It is do-able but not for the beginner.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=283377

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