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power to manual steering question.

I have a 1970 non ss El Camino. It currently has power steering and I want to convert to manual. Should I look in junk yards/pick your parts. If so what should I look for. Or would I be better off just buying a rebuilt one.

Also is the steering box the only thing that I need to replace. This includes gaskets, arms, or anything that would add money to this. obviously money is a huge concern.

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Why would you want to change it?
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Maybe he wants to save the weight of the power setup. Power steering is a horsepower drain as well.


IIRC that is a 605 power steering box, I'd be looking at any of the mid size GM cars with a 525 manual box. Maybe even an s10 pickup. Try to find one with a long input shaft, so you don't have to mess with your column.

I hear the sector shafts came in 2 sizes, so watch that if you need to keep your current pitman arm.

I think CPP has a rebuilt box for about 300.

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I just went the other way in my SS454,had a manual box and put power on it,as was stated,why would you want a manual box?really steers hard,its not like a ranger or S10 that doesn't have weight in the front and you have enough power to run a pump but if you have to have one,I have one up back that I can get off in a month or so(3 feet of snow)if you still need it.
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thanks for the replies guys. I have a 305 small block from a third generation camaro in my 1970 el camino. I have brackets for the steering pump of a 350 (i think the same as a 305). I have tried countless times to get the right steering pump and the one that I found that was close was still wrong. I dont have the brakets for my 305, so I would have to get the right ones and I dont have the money for it, plus a new power steering pump, and I would need to fix the leaking steering box that I currently have, not to mention the power gain that I have without a steering pump. Id rather have more manual than power accessories. I have power brakes and no vacuum lines to worry about. I want a simple manual steering box with no belts pumps and fluid to worry about.

what do you mean by long input steering column. would I be able to just measure the length of the steering colum and pitman arm to make sure that I have the right manual box when I find it in a junk yard?
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Many times the manual steering boxes will have a longer length input shaft than necessary so it puts the column attachment point in the same place as a power box. Which makes it a bolt in deal.

When I went from manual to power in my blazer. I removed a box with a short manual case, (short because it has no valves) and 3" input shaft, and put a box with the longer case, and power valves and ports , and a stub shaft.
Manual box.


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The boxes were interchangable with no column work required.

I'm surprised you can't find the brackets and proper pump for that car.

Even with different style fittings (metric or IF) you can have a hose made up to join them.

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You'll have to change the pitman arm since the output shafts are not the same diameter. If you get a used unit, try to find a low-mileage one if you can. One with 150K on it will be so worn you can't adjust the play out of it.
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