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Old 09-16-2010, 07:02 PM
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power steering fittings leaking aaaaaghhh!

2000 ford windstar

o.k, I replaced the power steering rack and the pressure and return lines.
the rack is a re-manufactured, the lines are straight from ford. The new lines
are leaking at the rack, both of them. I tried several times to secure the lines, each time using new teflon seals. I did NOT over tighten or cross thread. the lines seem to be leaking past the threads, and not out the back side of the fitting.

what am I missing??
Maybe a damaged re-man??? with bad threads???
would using teflon tape or thread sealer accomplish anything??
I really don't want to pull the rack out. I'm just trying to get a few more years out of the van.
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the teflon rings should do the trick. How did you install them?
Naturally ford has a special tool for installing them.It is part number
211-D027 .

It is just a little plastic thimble looking thing. Dont know if they have it in stock but.
You can do the same thing with a tapered punch but be carefull not to overdo it.
Is your van the 3.0 or 3.8? The 3.8 has the updated hose to cure a whine or groan in the P.S. system. Hopefully your parts guy caught it.

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The new lines had the seals already on. On the second go round, i bought
seals from ford, softened them in warm water, stretched them, then put
them in the same place on the lines. still leaking. I had no problem at all
on the pump end. clean and tight.
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Wow that sucks. Sounds like you did everything A-OK.I am at a loss what to suggest. I would be interested in what you find.
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When you pull the line out to check the teflon seal... do they look like they are tapered as if they were compressed in the spot the reside?
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I checked and there are no service bulletins for leaks in the lines connections. ( Doesnt mean their shouldnt be LOL)
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i'm gonna try teflon tape, and if that doesn't work, I will epoxy the fittings.
I just wish I knew what the problem is.
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When you pull the line out to check the teflon seal... do they look like they are tapered as if they were compressed in the spot the reside?

when I removed the lines, the seals were shredded. Its hard to tell if they seated right. but they came already installed on the lines, so they should have seated. I'm wondering if the threads on the rebuilt unit were damaged.
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thanks for checking for service bulletins
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Does it look like the line nuts bottom out in the hole .How do the nylon seals look when installed?do they look like they were squished down good?
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They looked definitely squished. should the nuts bottom out? It kinda feels
like they did bottom out.
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when I removed the lines, the seals were shredded. Its hard to tell if they seated right. but they came already installed on the lines, so they should have seated. I'm wondering if the threads on the rebuilt unit were damaged.
do those lines move when the line nuts are tight?
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i'll try to get a good picture tomorrow, maybe that will give you some clues.
this would be my first time working with teflon in place of o rings.

makes me nuts when i try so hard to do things properly, and it doesn't work.
maybe I shouldn't have cheaped out on the rack.
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Its not your fault .I get a lot of reman parts that are junk from the start.
If it says cardone on the box that is probably the problem. I have more trouble with cardone than I care to talk about.
If the threads were damaged I suppose the line would not screw in straight or square to the fitting on the rack. That would most certainley shred the seal and allow fluid to leak
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there was a chunk missing from the inner threads on the rack.
quality control should have caught that. I should have caught that
before I installed the rack.

well, I used thread sealant, teflon tape, then more sealant.
its now not leaking. I have another question for the master tech.
the computer is now reading lean on bank 1 and 2. not pending.
Is this because i ran the engine with manifold vacuum lines unhooked?

Thanks for the input!
Brian
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