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Old 04-04-2011, 01:40 PM
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what can go wrong usually does when it comes to paint. i've done this 44 years and i need all the help i can get.

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what can go wrong usually does when it comes to paint. i've done this 44 years and i need all the help i can get.
For sure... In addition to a couple of changes I have made to my bucket, another reason it needs a complete repaint, is because after I did everything I could to make sure I had a clean paint job, it still ended up with fisheyes. Turns out my tired compressor was misting a little oil. Grrrrrrr. Now in addition to all my other precautions and water separator filter, I use a disposable filter right at the gun. $3.99 at HF, new one each time I spray paint...........Allan
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throw the ball filter away. they cause more problems than they are worth. plus they restrict flow.
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Old 04-05-2011, 11:43 AM
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throw the ball filter away. they cause more problems than they are worth. plus they restrict flow.
Really? I knew that they would restrict flow somewhat , but wasn't aware of any problems associated with their use.
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It is important to have a filter in line at the end of the hose where it meets the gun. The black ball type are the best hands down. The orange colored ones degrade faster than the black ones but as long as your aware you'll be fine ..maybe why they cost a couple bucks more?
Either way they need to come off the gun when cleaning because the cleaning solvents will work their way through through air passages and get into the filter causing it harm.

Here is a link to the type I would recommend.
http://www.eastwood.com/disposable-i...ir-filter.html

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It is important to have a filter in line at the end of the hose where it meets the gun. The black ball type are the best hands down. The orange colored ones degrade faster than the black ones but as long as your aware you'll be fine ..maybe why they cost a couple bucks more?
Either way they need to come off the gun when cleaning because the cleaning solvents will work their way through through air passages and get into the filter causing it harm.

Here is a link to the type I would recommend.
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Thanks on both counts milo. I don't paint much anymore so it is not a big deal to just get a new ball filter each time that I paint. They also work good on my pressure feed sandblaster to keep the water out of the sand...........Allan
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Whatch You Talkin’ ‘Bout Willis?”

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I can't imagine having that filter hanging off the inlet of the gun if you have good enough filtration before the hose. It restricts movement low while painting things like fender bottoms and rocker panels, changes the gun balance and generally gets in the way. If you have water or oil carry over, you have other compressor and/or line problems that need to be addressed not band aided.

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:33 PM
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I can't imagine having that filter hanging off the inlet of the gun if you have good enough filtration before the hose. It restricts movement low while painting things like fender bottoms and rocker panels, changes the gun balance and generally gets in the way. If you have water or oil carry over, you have other compressor and/or line problems that need to be addressed not band aided.

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If I was still in business or had a lot of disposable income I would rebuild my compressor and buy a top of the line filtration system. Since neither applies, I will be content with a band-aid ............. Allan
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while some post a page, others post a sentence.
he makes a good point and I know exactly who he's referring to. He's specifically calling out snide posts with vague factoids that ultimately don't result in adding to the discussion; the posts are of low quality as accurate as they may be. In other words, almost a troll.
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throw the ball filter away. they cause more problems than they are worth. plus they restrict flow.
What should be used then?I am not questioning your knowledge,I am asking for it because after reading many of your posts I can tell you are not taking through your arse.
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What should be used then?I am not questioning your knowledge,I am asking for it because after reading many of your posts I can tell you are not taking through your arse.
You shouldn't have to use anything at the gun. If you are relying on a cheap plastic ball filter to save your paint job, then you are asking for trouble. Like was said earlier too, it adds length to you gun, and they are easy to snap off. THEN you have a real problem. A) you have an airhose now that is whipping around the booth B) you have your trigger pulled when this happens, and with a gravity feed, now you have a stream of paint all over the car. Seen it happen first hand. Never used them since. A little maintainence on your other filtration, or add one more filter before the airhose and you will save yourself a costly redo!
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there are plenty of threads on here about how to run air lines from your compressor that is relatively cheap to do..just do a search on them.

yes you could get by with using those little filters....but if you do the right setup you wont ever have to worry about getting one of those filters every time you load up the paint gun. it does't take a huge amount of money to have a proper air line system......you dont need something extravagant that you see in these big bodyshops, in your garage or in your small shop. No way would i have a $3,000 refrigerant system and huge compressor in my shop at home that i have at my business.....well maybe if the money just happened to fall in my lap!

once its setup its there forever..of course with maintenance.....
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About 50 feet of copper line, a few copper fittings, a couple blow down legs, an oil filter at the compressor along with these - a $25 Harbor Freight filter for a pre filter and a $100 Sharpe self draining final filter works for me on hot fairly humid days. But if you want fish eyes, water carry over and the fun and costs for redoing a car a second (or more) time, by all means, use the crappy "final filters". Enjoy!! And of course, don't do ANY search here for good clean compressed air advice from a lot better pro level folks then my amateur efforts.



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About 50 feet of copper line, a few copper fittings, a couple blow down legs, an oil filter at the compressor along with these - a $25 Harbor Freight filter for a pre filter and a $100 Sharpe self draining final filter works for me on hot fairly humid days. But if you want fish eyes, water carry over and the fun and costs for redoing a car a second (or more) time, by all means, use the crappy "final filters". Enjoy!! And of course, don't do ANY search here for good clean compressed air advice from a lot better pro level folks then my amateur efforts.



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And all this in my 10' x 20' garage? Nah, I'll just let my buddy with the body shop, paint for me in his paint booth. Nice setup though.
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