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Old 05-31-2003, 03:55 PM
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It has come time to start priming the pannels on my car. I will be doing them one by one off the car, so i need to buy a spray gun and compressor, but i have no idea which type of gun to go for.

I will only be spraying primer and a sealer with it. Is it worth buying a HVLP gun or should i just get a normal gun. I have limited experience with spraying, but i am only doing the primer, so it can be sanded if i stuff up.

Also if i prime my pannels and then spray them with a sealer, will they be fine to leave in a shed for up to a year or should i spray a light coat of colour to protect them from rust???

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Old 05-31-2003, 05:19 PM
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Buy a Binks model 7.......great primer gun. They run around $200.

A Hvlp gun is great because it uses less paint.You have to be carefull tho because a lot of them speay a small pattern & take a high volumn of air.Chk harbor freight.

I use a Binks Model 7 for primer & a Sata 2000($500) for paint...Don
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i have accuspray off of ebay for like $130 bucks...1.8 cap, sprays perfect and its actual primer/sealer gun
which compressor are you gonna use? let me know I need to get one too since I need one for painting, sandblasting etc..
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I would just caution towards the sealer application. Remember that the sealer has to be just as smooth as the top coat. I use a cheapo Campbell suction gun from Wallie world for high build primer since it will be sanded almost all the way back off. The cheapo leaves a surprisingly good finish, and I have also used it for sealer, but a good Gravity HVLP is better. If you use a catalyzed primer, you should not have to seal it for storage.

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Thanks for the replies. TurboS10 do you know if PPG make a catalyzied primer and can i put this on bare metal and over filler??

As for a compressor i haven't decided yet. All i know is i want a belt driven, single piston compressor with approximatley 50L tank. Over here (in AUS) it will cost me about $500.
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I am sure they make one, but I have no idea on the numbers or anything. I would use epoxy if you are going to bare metal. I also use it over filler to seal it all off from future coats. I have heard this is a no-no over filler, but I have had no problems. Maybe some of the pros will chime in hear. I am just a back yard (I have a 30x40 shop in my back yard) painter

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Over here in the states you can pick up a new DeVillbis for around $40 from Lowes. This is the quart siphon feed. This will be great for primer. But as Turbo stated get a good gun for the sealer and paint. That is what is going to be seen in the end so you go cheap on the equipment there you will have a crappy looking job.

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I would go with a cheapo gun for primer application. Don't skimp on the finish gun though. You might look at PPG's K36 primer. It is high fill and sands easily.

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I use Harbor Freight guns for all of my painting. Very good quality and super price which is a hard combo to beat for a hobbiest. Don't consider anything smaller than a 2-stage 5hp compressor for serious painting. Key to any spray gun is adequate air supply. Also, is big enough to power all air tools of which you will have a garage full if you get hooked @ Harbor Freight. You will never go back to electic again!
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Ditto what willys36 said about the compressor. Stay away from the direct drive junk that says it's rated at 5hp. The hp rateing for these noisy things is peak hp. I have a Speedair belt drive two stage 5hp (true 5hp) that is over 15 years old and is still working great. An added benefit is you can talk to someone while it's running. Invest in a good compressor, it's money well spent.

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or just use your cheap one for paint, and then return it
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[quote]Originally posted by mitmaks:
<strong>or just use your cheap one for paint, and then return it</strong><hr></blockquote>

Now, now, would a nice guy do that? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Thanks for the help guys.

I went down to the tool shop today with all your info in mind and baught a twin piston belt driven compressor. It has 3Hp and flows 16cfm. It also has a 50L cast iron tank. The shop was overstocked so he sold it to me for $500.

I also picked up a gravity fed gun, 20m of line, fittings and a air sprayer. This lot cost me another $225. So all up it was $725(thats AUS dollars remeber) and i am pretty stoked.

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Great. Will prove to be one of the best tool investments you ever make.
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