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View Poll Results: Are Pro Comp parts worth buying?
Yes, the price is too good to pass up. 21 21.00%
No, Pro Comp parts are off shore junk. 30 30.00%
Only if they have good reviews. 51 51.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 100. You may not vote on this poll

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If the "Chinese take over," it will be because we insist on allowing an American to enjoy a middle class living for the same amount of work someone else can do for poverty level wages. That American worker is consuming more wealth than he is producing, and for some reason I'm supposed to go along with it happily. Not. America does well as a whole when it produces more wealth than it consumes. By buying cheap goods from other countries, it saves more of our wealth to spend on more deserving American companies; i.e. those who have figured out how to produce a better product at a lower price.

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If the "Chinese take over," it will be because we insist on allowing an American to enjoy a middle class living for the same amount of work someone else can do for poverty level wages. That American worker is consuming more wealth than he is producing, and for some reason I'm supposed to go along with it happily. Not. America does well as a whole when it produces more wealth than it consumes. By buying cheap goods from other countries, it saves more of our wealth to spend on more deserving American companies; i.e. those who have figured out how to produce a better product at a lower price.
Very well put. albeit, i believe we have gotten off topic. I think this is a valid question. I would like to see what cobalt327 has to say.
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haha, automaticly, I watch fox news.. thats all
I'm out.. good day


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haha, automaticly, I watch fox news.. thats all
I'm out.. good day


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apparently.... btw automatically
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look boys and girls, lady's and gent's.. another english major..

you must save a ton on not needing lysol
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You guys are rehashing out an argument that started in the 50's. Unfortunately its no longer valid. The labor issues you wave around are no longer the issue. The main reason is manufacturing and materials technology. Factories no longer hire workers, just janitors and repair technicians. The reason businesses move out of the border, even as close as canada and mexico, is because the government is running them out. The number one concern of over 70% of small business owners isn't employees or overhead but the government. Its not just the outrageous taxes either, the over regulation is usually far worse.

As for buying anything offshore- realize that american quality control is usually far better than china's and buy what you percieve as the best value for yourself, some value low cost, some value name brands, some value country of origin.
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You guys are rehashing out an argument that started in the 50's. Unfortunately its no longer valid. The labor issues you wave around are no longer the issue. The main reason is manufacturing and materials technology. Factories no longer hire workers, just janitors and repair technicians. The reason businesses move out of the border, even as close as canada and mexico, is because the government is running them out. The number one concern of over 70% of small business owners isn't employees or overhead but the government. Its not just the outrageous taxes either, the over regulation is usually far worse.

As for buying anything offshore- realize that american quality control is usually far better than china's and buy what you percieve as the best value for yourself, some value low cost, some value name brands, some value country of origin.
x2.. and as long as I have a choice.. I'll help this economy
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I actually sighed just now, out loud, by my lonesome. what the hell does Lysol have anything to do with anything?

Ap72- you are correct.

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AP72, I agree with you, but I would like to add that the guys who are losing their jobs to this over-regulation are the same guys who almost always vote for the party who insists on the regulation. Ironic, huh?

Oh, and by the way, since everybody here is viewing this thread on a less foreign-made computer, I demand you all find an American company who makes really expensive ones and go buy theirs instead.
That would be the patriotic thing to do, right?
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You can reverse this Malady

Buy American no matter what it costs support our factory's and don't vote in any controlling Democrats or republicans they all hurt American Business. We can manufacture everything and don't need Unions to do it at a cost no one can afford. Im 69 yrs old and know what it used to be so i have some stats here.
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what the hell does Lysol have anything to do with anything?.
Fancy way of telling the guy that he must think his sh t don't stink.
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Fancy way of telling the guy that he must think his sh t don't stink.

fmrstrtracer for the win..
buy american or don't whine when your unemployed
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AFA buying or importing offshore goods in general or Chinese goods in particular, it's undeniable that the offshore manufacturers and exporters make a profit. But that isn't the whole picture, IMO. The importers here stateside also make a profit- and that profit generates tax revenue, and is used to pay employees as well as used for all aspects of running a business.

It wouldn't surprise me if the markup was greater between the US importer and the end consumer than it was between the Chinese manufacturer and the importer.

As far as PC products goes, I've still not bought anything imported by them. But if I was in the market I'd have to at least consider them along w/the others and I would be doing the research on them before buying. I think the poll results accurately reflect what people think in general.
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China is also becoming a bigger market for consumer goods, so manufacturing there makes sense.
For the first time ever, there will be more new cars sold in China than in the US this year.
Companies like Caterpillar, GM and Boeing are building product there just to serve the Chinese market. The Chinese make it easy too, by supplying the facility, a skilled worforce, and worker training so that someday a Chinese company will be building commercial aircraft.
GE is contracting to build 30+ nuclear powerplants in China using their newest design and all made in China components. There will be a few thousand US workers in China teaching them how to build and maintain the reactors.
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China is also becoming a bigger market for consumer goods, so manufacturing there makes sense.
For the first time ever, there will be more new cars sold in China than in the US this year.
Companies like Caterpillar, GM and Boeing are building product there just to serve the Chinese market. The Chinese make it easy too, by supplying the facility, a skilled worforce, and worker training so that someday a Chinese company will be building commercial aircraft.
GE is contracting to build 30+ nuclear powerplants in China using their newest design and all made in China components. There will be a few thousand US workers in China teaching them how to build and maintain the reactors.
wow- see now THAT is bad.
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