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Old 04-02-2011, 11:14 AM
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Build a 302 with Ford AOD and 4000 stall, and 4.30 gear. That is dirt cheap and fast.

302 are very cheap. Originally fit in the car, and fit the pit your getting in.

A old freind had a 280 z 5 speed that he wanted a Chevy 350 swapped in. Bought tons of parts, all from different people not in cooperation with another. A Nice rust free 280z was gutted, had a running motor and the sculpted interior not a crack. Got the 350 engine on a mount plate with a special distributor. Could not close hood, because the valve covers hit. Engine never fit. He moved the firewall, rad support, and engine craddle. That was the first year. Only got worse from there. 10-12 k spent , ended up with a parts car for sale.

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finally got some time to work on the car. got out of work early so i brought the work truck home. made things alot easier with torches and a 60 gallon air compressor

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Unless someone changed hoods on that car it never came with a 302 or any other V-8, it came with a turbo four Cly. and with the four in it it was almost as fast as the GT Mustang. I know because I have a 87, which they only made 5500 of them. I got mine new in 87. That car is a 88 because 89 they went to different body style. The 87-88 and some before that were the turbo coupes. 89 they became the super coupes, with a V-6 and supercharger.

You would be best off getting a turbo engine for it. that car has adjustable air ride for when you have your foot in it.

You talk about gutting it and make a sleeper, that means street racing, and that's just plain stupid. The strip is were you race not on some road where you could loose it and plow into a bunch of cars or people.

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Check position #8 on the VIN tag for the engine ID (not all these engines were available in your car):

3 = 232 cubic inch, 2V, 6-cylinder

4 = 3.8L, MFI, 6-cylinder

A = 3.9L, MFI, V-8

B = 200 cubic inch, 1V, 6-cylinder

D = 255 cubic inch, 2V, V-8 (1981 and 1982)

F = 302 cubic inch, 2V, V-8 (1981 through 1983)

F = 5.0L, V-8 (1984 through 1988)

R = 3.8L, Super Charged, 6-cylinder

T = 2.3L, Turbo Charged, 4-cylinder (1988)

W = 2.3L, Turbo Charged, 4 cylinder (1983-1987)

W = 4.6 Liter, 8-cylinder
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Check position #8 on the VIN tag for the engine ID (not all these engines were available in your car):

3 = 232 cubic inch, 2V, 6-cylinder

4 = 3.8L, MFI, 6-cylinder

A = 3.9L, MFI, V-8

B = 200 cubic inch, 1V, 6-cylinder

D = 255 cubic inch, 2V, V-8 (1981 and 1982)

F = 302 cubic inch, 2V, V-8 (1981 through 1983)

F = 5.0L, V-8 (1984 through 1988)

R = 3.8L, Super Charged, 6-cylinder

T = 2.3L, Turbo Charged, 4-cylinder (1988)

W = 2.3L, Turbo Charged, 4 cylinder (1983-1987)

W = 4.6 Liter, 8-cylinder
Cobalt I'm not saying that car only came with the 2.3 turbo, but if it had that hood with the scoops on it that's all that came in it. those scoops were for the inter cooler for the turbo. also the 1st 5500 were made in 87, as I stated I have one. The turbo is different than the ones built before that. So not all the 87 cars had the same turbo, or the code is wrong, but I didn't get mine until the end of April, I had ordered it in Oct, 86. At first each dealer was only suppose to get one car, where I got mine the general manager was a friend of mine, so I got it. I also know that they were bidding on them at some dealers, mostly in CA.

The r 3.8 supercharged V-6 came out in 89.

What I was saying in my first post was
1 If it had that hood from the get go, it never came with a V-8
2 The car was not a 89 as he said as they changed body styles in 89.

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I understand all that, really I do. I'm suggesting that if he wants to know what engine originally came in his car- regardless of what hood that is now on it or engine that was in it when he got it- all he need do is check the 8th VIN number.
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I understand all that, really I do. I'm suggesting that if he wants to know what engine originally came in his car- regardless of what hood that is now on it or engine that was in it when he got it- all he need do is check the 8th VIN number.
I get it. The post wasn't for me to start with. I'm old, it's late, thanks.

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The idea that this may have been a (relatively rare) turbo coupe- would that make it worth it for the OP to try to restore it w/a turbo 4, from a resale POV? Like you said, they ran pretty strong originally and can be made to run even better... might be the best bet on several levels.
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The idea that this may have been a (relatively rare) turbo coupe- would that make it worth it for the OP to try to restore it w/a turbo 4, from a resale POV? Like you said, they ran pretty strong originally and can be made to run even better... might be the best bet on several levels.
Well to me that would be the way to go keep it stock, you, like me know where the price of cars are right now. The one thing is that is the same engine they had in the Pinto. My wife had one, Pinto, that had 400,000 miles on it, never had it apart. At the end it would only go 30 MPH in forth gear. My wife has to have a stick, the turbo-coupe is a stick. I don't know if you could find a engine and turbo, another thing is that car had all kinds of things the other t-birds didn't, the air bags, four wheel disk brakes, four wheel anti lock, I don't know if you can get those any more. The car is 23 - 24 years old, parts might be hard to find. Mind don't need it but the Ford garage told me a few years ago to go through my engine would be about $7,000.00 and that's with the turbo. but I only have about 34,000 on mine. I take it out in the summer, But my wife has a GT Mustang Convertible to that has to be taken out. That's also a stick.

But I don't really know which way to go he has the motor mounts and everything in it, if they had to cut it up to get the 302 in it that maybe the best, by his pocketbook.

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Well, if it's a Turbo Coupe, it'll have a decent rear gear- 3:55 w/the T5, 3:73 w/the A4LD. The site I was looking at- http://members.tripod.com/~extreme_tbird/tcperf.html
said it was a 7.5" rear end?

I wonder why/how the power went from 190 HP w/the T5 down to 140 HP w/the AT. They mentioned an intercooler- another thing that will be missing here.
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Well, if it's a Turbo Coupe, it'll have a decent rear gear- 3:55 w/the T5, 3:73 w/the A4LD. The site I was looking at- http://members.tripod.com/~extreme_tbird/tcperf.html
said it was a 7.5" rear end?

I wonder why/how the power went from 190 HP w/the T5 down to 140 HP w/the AT. They mentioned an intercooler- another thing that will be missing here.
I'm no guru on turbo's, more the opposite, But the turbo they had used, the cooler was the problem, so they went to the inter cooler, it's big and does cover the engine. that's one of things I said he would need, to rebuild one. I don't know how easy they would be to find. Like I said they only made 5500 in 87, how many in 88, I don't know but my guess would be more. I always wondered why such a drop from t-5 to auto myself, I had a ride in one and it was a dog, on the other hand the T-5 car was almost as fast as the GT Mustang, at only a 190 HP, you would not think so. I don't know if they were playing the HP game like they did in the 60's and 70's, or not.

I don't know what size rearend was in it, I know it was a disk brake one. I don't keep mine here, it is at my brothers. Like I said in 87 every dealer was only suppose to get one, and when it was sold Ford wanted the paper work right away, they didn't want any sitting on the showroom. Some dealers were taking bids on them, they started at $10,000.00 Over list price. I got mine for $100 over list.

Like I said, me I would keep it stock, even the 88 they didn't make that many, I think there are a big number stored away, I drove mine, didn't make much since to have it and not put a few miles on it.

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