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Old 04-18-2013, 01:32 PM
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And i want to know how thik oil i. Should use . I think 20w40

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O i see your. Post now .. I want to use the lucas add .becouse i just order it haha . Uhm i speak a guy here e said use 20w40 mineral! Pure mineral. And add the lucas the whole bottle. I drain out the carter and. Ampty the oil filter . And then i. Mix the. Lucas with the. Oil before i. Put it in the engine . Is that okay .. Maybe. The assembly lube is already ghone A littlr becouse i crank the angine already but it is not others . Sorry for the questions. But do u think it becomes good. If i. Do it like i say in this post
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O i see your. Post now .. I want to use the lucas add .becouse i just order it haha . Uhm i speak a guy here e said use 20w40 mineral! Pure mineral. And add the lucas the whole bottle. I drain out the carter and. Ampty the oil filter . And then i. Mix the. Lucas with the. Oil before i. Put it in the engine . Is that okay .. Maybe. The assembly lube is already ghone A littlr becouse i crank the angine already but it is not others . Sorry for the questions. But do u think it becomes good. If i. Do it like i say in this post
Wezz If you trust that mans opinions do as he says but if there is any doubt in your mind do more research! Check with Hot Rod club members over there!!! I suggested My opinions so did 1 Gary. Wait for the others to post what they think on this thread!!!

Contact the cruizinangels link posted bellow they would know the oils found in the Netherlands you need, Or another club in the Netherlands in the list on the site I posted below!!!> they speak your language and know the oils found in your area The Joe Gibbs oil here in the parts stores sells for 15 dollars a QT. and on summit its 9 dollars a Qt. expensive to some!! I know you already bought that oil you have and would like to use it!!! I looked it up and can't find any good info on it! So I won't recommend it!! I also don't know how the Lucas would react with its formula?. Malc lives in Spain PM him He may know that oil you want to use and he may recommend it?

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no i dont use the oil i have i buy a new one in holland... i onley want to know how thik the oil must be.. like 10 w30 10w140 20w50 ... i take mineral .. the lucassays its good with any oil so i trust that. now i have 10w40 semy synt.. but synthetic is not good. is what i heart,. so what would u take qua thicknes.. ..
i know u send me a link of a nl hotrod club.. but they dont know! in holland nobady does have any knowledge about an american. i ask so much shops and members but they dont know!

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i look @ the joe gibs site... thay have a break in oil with a vissico of 15w50.. its almost the same as 20w50 right? in holland they have good oils 2! but i have to know the Viscosity typical .
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btw all the oils i see are syntetic???? Street Engine Oils - Born From Joe Gibbs Racing
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no i dont use the oil i have i buy a new one in holland... i onley want to know how thik the oil must be.. like 10 w30 10w140 20w50 ... i take mineral .. the lucassays its good with any oil so i trust that. now i have 10w40 semy synt.. but synthetic is not good. is what i heart,. so what would u take qua thicknes.. ..
i know u send me a link of a nl hotrod club.. but they dont know! in holland nobady does have any knowledge about an american. i ask so much shops and members but they dont know!

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For break in: I use straight 30 non detergent ZDDP oil with Lucas on older engine rebuilds like flat head Fords, and use 10 w 30 with ZDDP with Lucas on stock builds, but for high pressure race engines I have been using the Joe Gibbs 15 w 50 for break in!

I did a search on the JOE GIBBS and it is a mineral oil! LOL I didn't know that? I switched to it because I was told by a friend that it was very good ! Now I will do a lot more research to see if I should switch to The mineral oil LOL! I used to use Shell Rotella, before that the old Kendal before it went Mineral and synthetic. Its getting hard to find the older petroleum-based oils! Mineral oils I always thought of as over processed petroleum oil ( baby oil ) LOL I may have to change my thinking Because of this thread Wezz!!!


Brand: Driven Racing Oil
Manufacturer's Part Number: 01806
Part Type: Motor Oil
Product Line: Joe Gibbs Driven BR Break-In Motor Oil
Summit Racing Part Number: JGR-01806
Oil Type: Mineral
Oil Weight: 5W30
ZDDP Enhanced: Yes



Brand: Driven Racing Oil
Manufacturer's Part Number: 00106
Part Type: Motor Oil
Product Line: Joe Gibbs Driven BR Break-In Motor Oil
Summit Racing Part Number: JGR-00106
Oil Type: Mineral
Oil Weight: 15W50
ZDDP Enhanced: Yes


Wezz! after you break in the cam,( about 1/2 hr to 45 MIN.) drain the break in oil and change the filter and add new oil with ZDDP or a ZDDP additive if you need it> But for your ring and highway break in!!! Don't run the cam break in oil when breaking in the engine on the street It will be full of contaminants from your overhaul on the engine and the initial break in of the cam lifters etc! I never do an engine driven break in under load with the same oil or filter that I use for the initial cam break in! But that's just me! I'm sure others on here will argue but that's the way I do it!!

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Joe Gibbs produces Conventional oil and synthetics!

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ok but the lucas says i can run 1000 miles with the oil. wit zddp!. tomorro i going to get an good 15w50 mineral oil! whitout zddp i put the zddp from lucas in the engine with the mineral oil.. and then i run it good idea?
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ok but the lucas says i can run 1000 miles with the oil. wit zddp!. tomorro i going to get an good 15w50 mineral oil! whitout zddp i put the zddp from lucas in the engine with the mineral oil.. and then i run it good idea?
You don't really need an oil that heavy but Sure Wezz it sounds ok

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okay and after the break in... i take another oil.. so now you tell me what oil i take ... i like it if the zddp already in the oil is .. so .... after the break in period.. btw dont forget i onley have a new cam! not the pistons etc
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okay and after the break in... i take another oil.. so now you tell me what oil i take ... i like it if the zddp already in the oil is .. so .... after the break in period.. btw dont forget i onley have a new cam! not the pistons etc


"btw dont forget i onley have a new cam! not the pistons etc[/QUOTE]"

I know that Wezz, but you did the heads and the rest of the overhaul, so anything that you didn't see or missed when cleaning will wash loose with the oil flow and go to the pan and some to the filter And the more hrs on the engine with the cam break in oil in it the more likely something can be picked up and travel through the engine. You used a wire wheel remember? and probably gasket sealer,and maybe sand paper or grinding wheels,ETC. A few grains of metal filings or grit off a grindstone or a lost wire bristle or paint over spray peeling loose in the block or the thick molly lube if used, or the small metal particles from cam break in can cause trouble!


Good oils: Lucas Hot Rod and Classic Hi-Performance Oil, Valvoline VR1, Joe Gibb, etc There are still many that are more reasonably priced I look for a minimum 1200 ppm ZDDP or higher the Rotella 15/40 for tubo diesel used to have it?

I still add the GM ZDDP oil additive Recommended by GM for their older engines with flat tappets!! I can get it at any GM dealer or I use STP in a pinch or Lucas I don't trust the oil company's in what they update in their tech sheets most are out dated and things are changing fast with the ZDDP levels of oils!!!!

The new Mineral oils and synthetic oils contain higher levels of detergents and dispersants which deter the Zddp from adhering to metals so adding ZDDP to oils isn't a guarantee the addition of an additive (ZDDP) will help the cam life in all formulas of oil. I know that Joe Gibb oil for early engines is formulated to be compatible and already has a high level of ZDDP!


Shell Rotella T no longer has the minimum ZDDP only 800 PPM max. now!! But the addition of a ZDDP additive should be compatible!

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Ok but it isnt wrong to have a oil heavy like 15e50.. And i must use mineral right?
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Ok but it isnt wrong to have a oil heavy like 15e50.. And i must use mineral right?
Its not wrong! A lot of builders use different Wt.s of oil for break in and Mineral is OK! As long as it is a good quality oil and your ok with it!! What time is it there Wezz its 11:47 pm here

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