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Old 02-01-2013, 03:44 PM
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The block is a 14093627. A tbi afther 86 The cam is a edelbrock performer 3702 disgned for a 305- 350 Tbi and lg4 v8 engines. The lube that i put on the cam make spin a lettle harde but i can spin the cam around

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The block is a 14093627. A tbi afther 86 The cam is a edelbrock performer 3702 disgned for a 305- 350 Tbi and lg4 v8 engines. The lube that i put on the cam make spin a lettle harde but i can spin the cam around
Even with heavy break in lube it should turn with very little effort! Did you have cam bearings installed? If you gobbed a lot of cam lube on the rear of the cam it can hold the cam out a little it has no way to escape that area in the rear of the block creating a hydo. lock! I only put the break in lube on the cam lobes and lifters and break in oil on the bearings and cam surfaces that ride on the bearings! You can knock the plug out in the rear of the block and see how far the cam is going back! and replace with a new plug after! What timing chain are you using ?

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I am using a different timing chain as i found on my block. The. Wheel fits perfectly whit a litle edge over the edelbrock cam .. My stok cam wasnt. Fit in the weel. Also the cam is to big for the retainer .. I chekked the old bearings and they were in a god shape. The cam spins good whit actually no resistans but not if you give it a swing it spins 50 times around . Or so
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I am using a different timing chain as i found on my block. The. Wheel fits perfectly whit a litle edge over the edelbrock cam .. My stok cam wasnt. Fit in the weel. Also the cam is to big for the retainer .. I chekked the old bearings and they were in a god shape. The cam spins good whit actually no resistans but not if you give it a swing it spins 50 times around . Or so
If you have a roller cam block that uses a retainer plate, the right cam for that block will have a stepped nose on it to fit the smaller diameter of the retainer plate.

Another recent thread that discusses this is: SBC OEM Hyd Roller Thrust issues

You can use a roller cam w/o the retainer plate by using a cam button.

The cam bearings and cam bearing journals use motor oil or bearing assembly lube.
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Yes i had a rollerc stock . But npw i am using a flat tapped cam and lifters . So will the new cam stay on his place without the retainerplate . So i can leave it out?? P.s pi put the. Lube from te kit on the cam lift area and i used motoroil on the bearing area .. Good?
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unless there is a problem you just leave off the retainer thrust plate use lube on the surface where the cam gear rides and install the older style timing chain and gears, remember to put locktite on the timing gear bolts! just like on an early block! Is your fuel pump actuating rod hole drilled for a mechanical pump! or are you using an electric?

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Do you have a link with a pic of the " older style timing chain" so i can chek that ... Btw yes i have holes in where the mechanical fuelpump is in the block .. But no pin or so. . But 1 question what is retain the cam.so its not running out ? Id i leave te retain plate .. Thanx guys
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The timing gear will keep everything in line till it is worn to the point of the cam starting to walk on mild builds! You can install a cam snubber to control cam thrust if your worried about it! or a timing cover with a snubber built in! Wezz I'm not familiar with all the late small blocks Ive only worked on a couple so wait for Cobalt or Vinnie, or Bogie or Fbird ETC. I could google it and cut and paste but I don't trust the internet LOL I use particular timing gears ,but don't know which are the best for your application, ( like timing cover interference, cam walk with certain timing sets , Etc.) Or what you may run into on your end! if it was in my shop I could check on the spot and do my adjustments! These other guys have already run the gambit on what they may run into and can head it off before you need to ask the Question! I'll be on the side lines LOL till I can jump in!



Is this the timing chain set you have? Edelbrock #7800 - Performer-Link Timing Chain

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Ist like that timing chain but not from edelbrock it fits perfectly on the cam I will send a video and pics.
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Hello there is an other problem . I have a small block tbi rollercam when its strock . But now 1 bought a performer plus kitt with a 3702 cam flat tapped hydro lifters. They told me you can go from roller to flat tapped lifters but now i was installing a lifert and i saw it is a way shorter. As the stock roller lifter. So the pushrod looks like be to short what can i do now becouse im getting a little confused about this
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call Edelbrock Tech line tell them your installing their cam kit replacing the roller cam with their flat tappet cam. They have the push rods you need for the swap as long as the rest of the valve train is stock they will know what you need!

Otherwise you will need to calculate and order the right length push rods.

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to short lifters

here a few pics .. i think my lifters are way to short they wil not come avove the edge of te lifter hole
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and my engine codes are 14093627 heads are 14102187 stock its a 305 2 bolt with rollercam 1 piece rear steal ( thats what i found if i chek it in the list
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i found a topic about a 92 roller tbi block is this the same as mine .. my block is from 87 to 91 :Can you put a flat tappet cam in a 92 TBI 305? - LS1TECH
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The difference in how deep the flat tappets sit in the roller block doesn't matter, the pushrod length does.
A flat tappet cam uses a pushrod that's about 7.8" long. The stock Chevy hydro roller cam pushrod is only about 7.2" long.

The block is a 1-piece rear main seal.

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Valve train points to check
Cam break in
Adjusting hydraulic lifters
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