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Wezz 01-30-2013 11:46 PM

Pump them up?
 
Hi. Yesterday my new cam and lifters. Were dilivered But now im dnt know if i have to pump them up or put them in a container with oil. The edelbrock says no but a lot of people are saying yes . So what to do .. Thnx

S10 Racer 01-30-2013 11:49 PM

Soak them in oil but do not pump them up.

vinniekq2 01-31-2013 12:05 AM

use a solid lifter cam instead

Wezz 01-31-2013 12:08 AM

Lifter
 
So for how long do they have to soak in the oil .. Btw its the performerplus cam and lifterkit

painted jester 01-31-2013 12:23 AM

They don't need to soak (makes a big mess) just coat with oil and put break in lube on the bottoms and install!

Jester

painted jester 01-31-2013 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinniekq2 (Post 1640763)
use a solid lifter cam instead

LOL :D We just got off a thread like this LOL Im going to quit answering the same questions over and over Vinnie! Your answer is a good one on these questions!!!!! It made me laugh!!!!!:thumbup:


Jester

Wezz 01-31-2013 12:32 AM

I use a hydroulic lifter that came with the cam kit

painted jester 01-31-2013 12:44 AM

Wezz:

This is what I posted on another thread about pumping up lifters:

Jester

Cleaning , and proper lubricating is a much better use of your time. There are so many installers who don't do that most important step CLEANING!!


Soaking in a can of oil is messy and wont fill a lifter only the small cavity above the plunger & below the pushrod seat! you must compress the lifter till it bottoms out and release it to fill it while under the oil in the can, or tear it down fill and reassemble it for those of you that want to fill yours:drunk:
Bleed down rates vary by design if heavy break in lube or small debree enters the lifter with a slow bleed down rate it can lock the lifter and it wont bleed down! That's why you don't use anything but oil on the lifter bores or the sides of the lifters! Over the years Ive seen them locked up right out of the box and had to tear down and clean them or get a replacement, and some that wont pump up! cheap brands like Su----, J--s, Cr-w, etc Maybe a dozen over 50 years installing cams kits or new lifters!

The last word from me on this is if a tech sheet said don't pump up a lifter I wouldn't say "Hell I'm going to pump it up anyway"! Nor would I say "Hell I'm going to break in my cam at 4000 rpm for 15 min" if a tech sheet say's 2000 for 1/2 hr. because some people say that's all that's needed or wrote a paper on it ,or you watched u tube and saw some videos of people doing it and the car still runs at the end of their home made video

Wezz 01-31-2013 01:19 AM

But what is it what edelbrock talks about. Bent pushrods and valves. ? By pumping

painted jester 01-31-2013 01:56 AM

Follow Edelbrocks instructions or don't your going to get answers on both sides of the question If you think the people who say pump em up are right and all the people who say don't plus Edelbrock, VooDoo, Crane, Howards, ETC, who engeneered and designed the product are wrong!! Do as you wish!

Its your engine:thumbup:

Jester


Do your tech sheets read different then this? Do they say pump them up?

Edelbrock Corp.
INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS
1. Coat cam lobes and bottom of each lifter with MOS2 lube supplied
with your kit. This will prevent cam lobe and lifter
wear from occurring during initial engine start up. Do NOT
pre-oil or "pump-up" lifters before installation as this may
hold valves off the valve seat leading to loss of compression
and/or bent valves during initial engine start up.

Wezz 01-31-2013 02:06 AM

Ok but how to adjust the rocker nut with a empty valve lifter?

painted jester 01-31-2013 02:35 AM

There are a couple of lifter that are pumped up before installation usually ant pump 0 lash types and Rhoads lifters! So a person needs to read directions!

Jester

HOW TO's: ORIGINAL RHOADS LIFTERS

Before installation, each Rhoads Lifter should be fully filled with oil. To fill with oil, completely submerge each lifter upright into a container of oil and compress the inner plunger with a pushrod or screwdriver until the plunger is driven to the bottom of the lifter. Hold several seconds and release slowly. Repeat several times until the lifter is fully filled. NOTE: Soaking lifters in oil will not fill them. Also, make sure to apply assembly lube to each cam lobe and lifter bottom!





To understand and adjust your lifters go here: :thumbup:
http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w...raulic_lifters


Good night Wezz its 4:30 A.M. here!!!:embarrass

Wezz 01-31-2013 02:46 AM

Im a little confused right now. So the question again . Do you recomend pump up the edelbrock lifters. Yes or no? Thanks

gearheadslife 01-31-2013 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wezz (Post 1640786)
Im a little confused right now. So the question again . Do you recomend pump up the edelbrock lifters. Yes or no? Thanks


why are you not doing as the MAKER OF THE KIT says..
they've done the R&D they know what works and what doesn't.. with their gear.. either follow what they say or.. don't call them when your engine/cam fails..
#1 reason for cam failures.. installers that think some web guy knows more than the company that spent many r&d hours on their parts..

unless it was a top name builder telling you different than edel.
and you are on first name basic with him/her..
follow the directions surplied with your kit.. if you lost them edel will gladly email you them if they are not on their web site already...

good luck.. did you degreee the cam.. or just going to stab it in..

Wezz 01-31-2013 04:37 AM

Ok thanx bit what do u mean . Did you degree the cam or just going to stab in it


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