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Old 03-30-2012, 11:40 AM
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Quality(?) Drill Bits wanted

Now that I'm retired, and a new homeowner, I started doing repair jobs again now that I got the time. Things have really changed. I was doing work with a drill and I had bits for metal, masonry and wood. All the bits I bought were snapping, especially the ones for metal. I broke like 20 bids and was only 2/3 done. Then, I looked in my old dirty rusty tool box and found a bit bought back in the mid/late 80's. It went through every thing metal, concrete and wood and finished the remaining 1/3 of the job. So, I've been reading even snap-on and Craftsman quality is crap. Where can I go and what brand can I go with? I'd rather pay more for quality stuff. It's cheaper in the long run anyway and less frustrating. It seems like home depot sells a lot of crap. Are Milwaukee Drills still one of the best? I used to abuse the hell out of it and would probably still have it had it not been stolen.

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Drills and Bits.

Hi,there are a number of GREAT drills,of which MILWAUKEE is one. i ONLY buy COBALT bits,NOT that titanium coated crap,or high speed steel...
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Good place to start , a lot of machinists buy from here:

http://www.use-enco.com/1/1/54117-he...-bit-sets.html
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McMaster-Carr.com Buy them one at a time or a set, fractional, letter, number bits all kinds finishs.
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McMaster-Carr.com Buy them one at a time or a set, fractional, letter, number bits all kinds finishs.
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McMaster Carr, is great. and I get my oder so fast, I sometimes think they shipped it before I ordered it.

I placed an order at 7:00 PM Sunday evening, and got it by noon next day (Mon.)
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Carbide drill bits are great but also expensive. I bought a "Drill Doctor" a few years ago. I really didn't know how much to expect from it but have really been pleased. It will make a drill bit absolutely new again in about a minute. Not only puts the right taper on it but cuts the double angle at the center of the point. With that and cutting fluid I have bought almost no drill bits for several years.
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I have all brands of drill bits

But I keep them all sharp and they all do the job. I have a Darex drill bit sharpener and all my bits over 400 are all sharp. as soon as a bit starts to slow down like today with a No 7 bit for tapping 1/4 inch threads, i immediately took it to the Darex and touched it up. That did the job for me. I buy from machinist tool suppliers Like ENCO.com, Wttools.com and others. Nothing beats a sharp tool even my tin snips that i cut all the Coupes 18 gauge sheet steel was sharpened with a Arkansas stone by hand every other day to keep them sharp.
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Unless I need a particular size immediately and am out I will order up a batch from McMaster-Carr. I had been just getting the black nitrided but they seem to be sourced form "elsewhere" lately so have bounced up to the next level. I have literally hundreds of drill bits, and are kept sharp with my Drill Doctor. There can be a trick to that gadget too, depending on the actual flute twist - that's after setting the drill for grinding, you may have to turn the bit in the holder forward or back to get the correct negative heel angle

Most of the big box stores have DeWalt (junk), Hitachi (OK) or Bosch (pretty good) along with 'store brands' (might be good .... or not). Harbor Fright ( total crap). I tried a couple of sizes of 'titanium' coated, just because I could, and immediately burned off the cutting edges - they were trashed.

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my neighbor has a drill doctor that i use to sharpen any bit over 3/16''
that thing is the cat's meow for getting bits sharp
anything under 3/16'' is disposable, if i need 1, i buy 2

most of my bits are 15 yrs old or older
i was in the same dilemma as you are
i wanted to pitch them all and start over
and then my neighbor got the drill doctor
life is good again and my bits bite
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aircraft surplus

I used to be able to get surplus bits that a guy bought in bulk from boeing aircraft but I haven't seen any lately at swap meets or flea markets. Boeing bits were the best. When Ford and GM shut down their assembly plants they used to give laid off employees first chance to buy surplus tools, My brother first bought a garbage can with wheels then filled it with tools. only one tool of each kind per person. He showed them the differences length , magnet insert, shallow hex to hold a nut, deep hex, etc.
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Good place to start , a lot of machinists buy from here:

http://www.use-enco.com
Another vote here for Enco. They have bits on sale pretty frequently -- sets and individual pieces. (The home page will have links to the latest sale catalogs and also closeout specials.)
I bought several pieces of the "Trinado" brand, "mechanic's length" with 3-flat shanks. EXCELLENT quality!
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I bought Bad Dog Bits at a trade show. They're are incredible and warranty is for life. Send them back if they and they send a new one.

http://www.baddogtools.com/styled-6/styled-8/index.html
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Carbide drill bits are great but also expensive. I bought a "Drill Doctor" a few years ago. I really didn't know how much to expect from it but have really been pleased. It will make a drill bit absolutely new again in about a minute. Not only puts the right taper on it but cuts the double angle at the center of the point. With that and cutting fluid I have bought almost no drill bits for several years.
Carbide bits are specialty bits and not for general use. Carbide bits are also very brittle. Lastly, don't try to sharpen a carbide bit on a Drill Doctor because the wheel is not made to do it. It takes a diamond wheel to sharpen carbide.
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The actual Drill Doctor Brand advertises they have a diamond wheel which should handle a carbide bit. Don't have a lot of experience though as far as how long it will last sharpening such hard material.

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Carbide bits are specialty bits and not for general use. Carbide bits are also very brittle. Lastly, don't try to sharpen a carbide bit on a Drill Doctor because the wheel is not made to do it. It takes a diamond wheel to sharpen carbide.


I do not know about the original versions which you might have but the current one I have DD750X uses a diamond grit wheel

http://www.drilldoctor.com/index.php...=2649&Itemid=2

http://www.drilldoctor.com/index.php...=159&Itemid=15
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