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Question about Pull strips

I've been reading the various tutorials and I see the pull strip sewed into the covers here and there. I'm assuming you use the pull strips in areas that you want the fabric to tuck in deeper.

How wide are the pull strip pockets and what kind of wire do you use inside the pull strips and how are they fastened...and do you poke a hole in the foam and pad at both ends of the strip to feed the wire through as you are fitting the cover over the seat?

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What you are referring to are called listings. Listings are used to hold the cover in a certain position to create depth and separation. The wires can be pretty much anything that is stiff enough to hold the listing in place without bending. Listings are generally 1 1/2" wide. I buy it pre-made in large rolls, but you can make them out of light denim by cutting 3 1/4" pieces to the length you want, folding them in half, and ironing them flat. The picture shows the pre-made listing material and 3 different type listing wires. The wire on top is called stake wire. Any upholstery shop should have that in stock.

They are attached with hog rings to wires that are already embedded in grooves in the seat foam.
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Thanks Dan, once they are sewn in, how wide are they?. I'm trying to imaging pulling on the listing and that I would have to pull up all the slack in the 1.5" before the fabric would pull in or tuck deeper into the foam.

I guess I'm not visuallizing the whole picture yet...

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After they're sewn in, they are about an inch wide. There should be grooves in the foam to let them go down in. Here's how it works: The 1st and 2nd pictures are of the seat foam and back foam for this seat. The next picture is the back cover turned inside out, and the one after that is the seat bottom cover turned inside out. You can see the "H" patterned grooves in the foam, and the corresponding listings shaped like an "H" on the seat covers. In a normal older car seat, down in the grooves are wires molded into the foam that the listings are hog ringed to.
The last picture is of the finished seat. You can see where the listings hold in the seat cover. This happens to be a Corvette seat and it is done a little differently than a regular seat. The wires in the listings are connected to wires on the opposite side of the seat foam with short connecting links. They are visible in the fourth picture of the seat bottom cover. Some newer seats like Honda seats are done this way also, but the connecting links are springs.

Here's a tip if you ever do a Corvette seat: Don't worry about the old wires and connecting links, buy a new set, they are only $35.00 a set for new wires, new connecting links, and new seat clips to hold the seat bottoms down. The kit will do both seats and it is well worth it.
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That answers several questions...thanks...

So in the case where everything is going to be new, where would I fasten the listing wires? In your first reply, you said they are attached to wires in the foam...and a new install won't have those.

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Then you have to create grooves for the wires to go in , and add the wires themselves. One way of adding the wires would be to sew them like welts into the center of a wide piece of strong cloth and glue them to the top of the foam. I would use stake wire to do that. Then, to make the grooves, glue pieces of firm 1" foam on top of the other foam leaving 1" wide grooves 1" deep.
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So on top of the springs, I put the flex pad. On top of the pad, I glue the fabric with the wires where I want the seat to get fastened to. On top of the fabric, I glue my one inch firm foam with grooves cut for the listing to get pulled into.

is that right?

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I would glue a complete layer of 1" foam over the flex pad. Then I would put the fabric and wires wherever you need them. Then I would cut 1" thick foam pieces and glue them to the first layer of foam to fit around the wires. Leave the width of the grooves 3/4" to 1" wide with the wires centered on the groove area. This will give you a 1" depth down to the where the listing wires attach. If it doesn't look right after you put the seat cover on, you can adjust the width of the listings to get the proper depth. Because this is all brand new, you may need to do some trial and error before it is right. When you put the cover on, attach the horizontal listings first and then go to the vertical ones.
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Dan,

Do I glue the fabric with the wires to the flex pad?
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Glue the fabric with the wires to the first layer of 1" foam, not to the Flex Pad.
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