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Originally Posted by ap72
As I used to use vr1 I know for a fact it is lacking in detergents. vr1 is not meant for the street and as such isn't meant to go 3000 miles between changes. Valvoline conventional or synthetic (regular stuff not vr1) and zddp additive will also work very well though.
As promised, here is a copy of the E-Mail I received from Valvoline.


I use VR-1 10W-30 in my flat tappet 383 SBC stroker. Does this product have a detergent/additive package that allows it to be used, strictly on the street, with an oil change interval of 3000-5000 miles?

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Good Morning Larry,

Thank you for contacting Valvoline Product Support regarding Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil.

The Valvoline VR-1 SAE 10W30 Racing Oil does have a detergent package that will provide service for three months or 3000 miles.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us via email or by phone at 800 TEAM VAL for assistance. Thank you once again for contacting Valvoline and have a great day.

Thank you,
Valvoline Product Support"

Still waiting for your proof to the contrary.

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Originally Posted by glen242
Still waiting for your proof to the contrary.
It says right on their website in the very first bullet point:

What are the benefits to using a racing oil versus a regular "street legal" oil?
The Valvoline VR1 Racing & "Not Street Legal" racing oils contain additional additives for increased horsepower and reduced friction on metal parts, provide extra wear protection for high compression/higher horsepower engines, and include fewer detergents than regular conventional motor oils.
In my experience, anything labeled and marketed as "race" means it is designed for a specific purpose. Speed/performance, NOT longevity. You want longevity for street applications.
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I guess the tech guy who responded to me was mistaken, as far as the detergent package being ok, in street driving, for 3000 miles.

I will ask for additional clarification from Valvoline.

BTW. VR-1 is 'Street Legal'. The strictly racing oil is 'Not Street Legal' and I believe the detergent level in this oil is reduced.

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The TBN (total base number) is a good indicator of the amount of detergent in the oil and calcium (ca) is helps to neutralize the acids.
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